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SpedEd



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: A Stone's Throw Away... Reply with quote

Hi everyone:

I recently relocated to Ulsan, S.Korea from North America (P.E.I.). I don't like my job which entails being slavedriven with 10-11 classes during an eight hour stretch, with unfriendly native staff and anunappreciative owner/director.
I had a general idea of what I was getting into when coming over, but the desperation back home won and got me on the plane and over here Smile I've did only a little bit of exploring around the city of Ulsan, and let me tell you, it's pretty dry. The expat community seems rather intent on drinking away the pain, and I can see their point, but I don't want to become one of them. It's so early on yet for me here (one month) that I can get out of Ulsan and in Japan with sanity intact and into a better job.
The one good thing about Ulsan is that on a map it is "just across the pond" from Japan. My priority right now is to quickly get hired as an educator without having to go to Japan first. Please, what is the most efficient way of getting hired, ie., what employers will take someone with limited teaching experience and English undergrad.?

Thanks in advance
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My priority right now is to quickly get hired as an educator without having to go to Japan first. Please, what is the most efficient way of getting hired, ie., what employers will take someone with limited teaching experience and English undergrad.?


Don't get angry, but if you aren't willing to come here, how are people supposed to interview you? Only in extremely rare cases do they interview on the phone to decide on candidates, and I wouldn't go with a phone interview to decide my OWN fate. You are going to have to come here to get that job.

It is not clear from what you wrote whether you have a bachelor's degree. I assume you do, but I just thought I'd ask. You'll need it for a work visa.
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best bet is to leave the horrible situation and come over to Japan and search for a job. Luckily, this is the best time of year to find one.
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Mark



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll have to come here. Some companies hire abroad, but they have recruiting offices set up in English-speaking countries. I don't think any of them would be able to interview you in Korea. An international chain, like Berlitz, might be a possibility. I believe that Berlitz Japan and Berlitz Korea are under the same management, so they might be able to interview you in Korea for a job in Japan, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Your best option is to apply for jobs and then give employers a time frame of when you'll be in Japan. Come over for a week and do a bunch of interviews. You'll probably get something.
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SpedEd



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of years ago, I was able to get a job offer from a Japanese language school (NES) while still back home, but the offer didn't come with the best conditions. I posted the contract on a forum and it was generally viewed as being bad. Maybe I should have taken it as a foot in the door...
What kind of money and time frame am I looking at to find work over there? I am *supposed* to be paid for my services with my current employer this week (approx. two grand - US).
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Seeker of truth



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Problems?? Reply with quote

SpedEd,
Although I don't know your whole situation, I remember what a recruiter told us at a seminar about teaching ESL in Japan several years ago.

Interestingly enough, she gave us several reasons why we shouldn't pursue the job. One was if we were hoping to escape some personal problem. She said whatever problem people are trying to escape from at home invariably seems to manifest itself once they come over to Japan. That problem plus all of the cross-cultural differences would always exacerbate the situation.

You mentioned problems at home, and now in Korea. Are you sure you won't have a similar problem in Japan as well? Just curious.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What kind of money and time frame am I looking at to find work over there?

Standard pay is 250,000-280,000 yen/month, but a lot of places have taken to lowering that, so beware.

Time frame? Now to April 1st is the best time of year to get hired.
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SpedEd



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Problems?? Reply with quote

Seeker of truth wrote:
SpedEd,
Although I don't know your whole situation, I remember what a recruiter told us at a seminar about teaching ESL in Japan several years ago.

Interestingly enough, she gave us several reasons why we shouldn't pursue the job. One was if we were hoping to escape some personal problem. She said whatever problem people are trying to escape from at home invariably seems to manifest itself once they come over to Japan. That problem plus all of the cross-cultural differences would always exacerbate the situation.

You mentioned problems at home, and now in Korea. Are you sure you won't have a similar problem in Japan as well? Just curious.


I have issues just like everyone else, but I don't think they are so severe that I can't be gainfully employed. As tough as things have been for me over here, I don't regret coming. I did mention earlier that I had a general idea of what was in store for me when coming to Korea; the hardest thing I ever had to do was get off the plane and accept that I was going to be working in a foreign country with a poor reputation for how it treats a lot of its foreign workers, especially in the ESL industry. Now that I have experienced it first hand with my first employer at least I will be more prepared for a second round if more problems arise.
It's really my hope that I can find some kind of niche teaching job that allows me to feel comfortable and able to express myself and win friends in the process. At the very least, I want to save some money to take home with me and be proud that I had the courage to come over here...
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