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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: Describe Your Privates |
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Too long? Too short? You aren't paid enough for them?
I'd be interested in hearing about private tutoring round the globe.
It's fairly common practice in Mexico, and from what I can see, throughout Latin America. I've read it can get you into trouble with immigration in Korea.
In Mexico, one can generally charge 2 to 5 times what you earn regularly per hour, but scheuling and frequent cancelations can make it more of a break-even affair. Here in Mexico City, private students are often children or university students of well-to-do families. It is also often seen as a no-no to privately tutor the same students you work with at school. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: |
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I had some, but many cancel, it's a good policy to make them pay the same day as you teach them. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 67 Location: temp banned from dave's korean boards
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: |
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They are a valuable part of my life.
I play with them, though we sometimes are serious and get down to business.
I don't like to talk about them much, partly because it's illegal here in Korea to use them to suppliment one's income, though that doesn't stop me from "volunteering", from using them socially to get what I want. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Very common in Japan. If you live in a more rural part of the country, like I do, you can get paid quite a lot. It is not illegal (with immigration)in Japan, but some employers may put a clause in your contract saying it is forbidden. |
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Boy Wonder

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Clacton on sea
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Small, male, prone to sudden movements and outbursts of action after long periods of inactivity.
A pleasure to play with although some games can get out of hand!
The money is irrelevant to the satisfaction gained. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:51 am Post subject: |
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How does one get private students in Korean when it is illegal? I would just advertise in other countries but in Korea, what can be done to find private students. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:57 am Post subject: |
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JZer wrote: |
How does one get private students in Korean when it is illegal? I would just advertise in other countries but in Korea, what can be done to find private students. |
Mostly word of mouth. I never taught someone or met anyone unless they were recommended by someone I knew. Teachers are so transient, so you often get teaching jobs passed onto you from a departing teacher. |
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Lynn

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 696 Location: in between
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Boy Wonder wrote: |
Small, male, prone to sudden movements and outbursts of action after long periods of inactivity.
A pleasure to play with although some games can get out of hand!
The money is irrelevant to the satisfaction gained. |
hee-hee! |
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Mike_2003
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 344 Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I prefer to start of with some oral exercises and then move on to some intensive drilling. Visual aids are often useful and fun . Usually last for 2 hours. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I tutor business people. The $ is good, usually $50 an hour. One thing to take into consideration is the travelling. I live in the centre and so I don't tutor anyone too far from the metro as Istanbul is biiiiiiiiig. I know some people who spend up to 3 hours travelling to and from lessons!!!! |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: privates |
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Recently I don't teach them, here in Japan. They can vary, depending on the student and your Japanese language ability (useful for low level students). Yes, cancellations are sometimes frequent, but you should set rules with your students in advance concerning cancellations where generally if they cancel on short notice, they still have to pay a cancellation fee, which can be negoitated. Of course the instructor should be flexible, as sometimes there are real emergencies. Also you need to set rules for lateness as well, as this can cause problems with back to back lessons.
Another problem is the place, as my wife doesn't like me teaching at home. So, finding a quiet place that is not too expensive is problematic, unless you teach at te student's home or office! |
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guangho

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 476 Location: in transit
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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When teaching privates, what do you focus on, and what materials do you use? What are your students expectations? Generally, how long do you keep clients- i.e., how long do you work with an individual? |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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guangho wrote: |
When teaching privates, what do you focus on, and what materials do you use? What are your students expectations? Generally, how long do you keep clients- i.e., how long do you work with an individual? |
I focus on the student first. Why study? With children, the parents make the call, and it's often homework help, TOEFL preparation, or a book they are already using. With adults, it's often specific to writing or business, or project oriented. I'll use an ESL program as a guide but let the student bring lots of material, or invent my own.
How long? Depends on goals. I once worked with an Indian in Mexico City for the Quebec 'consulate' immigration interview, in French, for three days. Other students were for 6 months of TOEFL prep. Others just over a year. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 67 Location: temp banned from dave's korean boards
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I guess my post was too subtle compared to later ones by Boy Wonder and Mike_2003.
More double entendre. |
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memorabilis
Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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When I was in India, I never bothered with them. The money that you could ask was not really worth my time. At work, my salary was around $15 an hour after taxes, housing, flights, etc. At most for privates you could ask like $6 or $7. Who would bother for that (although one of my co-workers did trade english lessons for ayurvedic massages with a doctor at a spa!)
In Korea, it's illegal, so again, it's not worth the hassle for me. Also, I value my time to much to try to kill myself for a few extra dollars. |
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