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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vietnam is the only exception, but even then, Canadians were fighting there too.


It was their own choice as individuals to go get killed for Uncle Sam.

And you forgot the current war in Iraq, of course, not to mention the Spanish-American War and the Mexican War.

In fact the first war in which Canada and US were on the same side was WWI, and the US got in shortly before it ended.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I realized my error after writing that. I was thinking more of global conflicts such as the Cold War and WWs I and II. Even in the 'war on terror', we stand clearly on the same side, when it comes to North American policy and security.
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Jizzo T. Clown



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of my Canadian friends once told me that

"Canada's on top, so the US is our Bltch."

Doesn't appear to be the case, does it? Wink
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Canadian nationalism defies logic. I remember that Molson Beer comercial the Joe Canuck one where he says all these things to incite Canadian Nationalism well they are owned by Coors now.

I would like to comment on the Ecomony for a moment.

Its been the objective for the past 30 years to divide labour from Capital. Canada is a very very unproductive country, we make almost nothing, not a single appliance, but somehow we are wealthy.

A small tiny nation like the netherlands, with very few people, produces almost nothing, no national resources, nill of an Army gives advice and orders to powerful and productive societies like Turkey.

This comes to the question of where does Wealth come from, comes from the commodity. If Canada does not produces commodities, it does no produce wealth. If it does not produce wealth, where is the wealth coming from?

We're extracting it from the third world. This is imperialism. This is why its scary for Canadian, American or European elites when the third world takes things into their own hands. Because the third world right now has so much power, it produces almost everything.

But whats worse about this, is your average Canadian does not benefit from this, our countries extract the wealth but we still have an increasing levels of poverty, joblessness, and homelessness.

Why do we take it from the United States? The US still produces, albeit a war industry, they still have power, they still produce wealth, and they force countries they destroy to rebuild with American corperations. Their power is reliant on their ability to wage war, where is Canada's? And Iraq and Vietnam are not the only two conflicts the United States have been in.

The response to our defiency to the United States? Create our own ecomony of War.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's how Industry Canada divides up the manufacting sector in Canada.

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* Food Manufacturing (NAICS 311)
* Beverage and Tobacco Product Manufacturing (NAICS 312)
* Textile Mills (NAICS 313)
* Textile Product Mills (NAICS 314)
* Clothing Manufacturing (NAICS 315)
* Leather and Allied Product Manufacturing (NAICS 316)
* Wood Product Manufacturing (NAICS 321)
* Paper Manufacturing (NAICS 322)
* Printing and Related Support Activities (NAICS 323)
* Petroleum and Coal Products Manufacturing (NAICS 324)
* Chemical Manufacturing (NAICS 325)
* Plastics and Rubber Products Manufacturing (NAICS 326)
* Non-Metallic Mineral Product Manufacturing (NAICS 327)
* Primary Metal Manufacturing (NAICS 331)
* Fabricated Metal Product Manufacturing (NAICS 332)
* Machinery Manufacturing (NAICS 333)
* Computer and Electronic Product Manufacturing (NAICS 334)
* Electrical Equipment, Appliance and Component Manufacturing (NAICS 335)
* Transportation Equipment Manufacturing (NAICS 336)
* Furniture and Related Product Manufacturing (NAICS 337)
* Miscellaneous Manufacturing (NAICS 339)


Canada is a country rich in resources, one of the richest as a matter of fact, in primary sector goods. Our manufacturing sector, albeit small, mostly reflects that. Spinoff services supporting these industries add to the pile. We are a country of only 32 million.

I don't see how your average Canadian does not benefit from this. Cpmpre to the world a Canadian city, or the services we receive, or our health statistics, or infant mortality, or our education, or any stat you can think of besides average snowfall and we rank in the top 5, every year.
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are 15th in the world for our healthcare and infant morality not top 5.

Primary industries are a limited resource, and they do not generate as much wealth as refined commodities do. Besides most of the Primary industries are owned by foreign companies. I am saying our wealth we have is extracted from the third world, we are already seeing the byproducts of deindustrializating in Canada, conditions are not improving they are getting worse. I'm not saying things are horrible here, I'm saying they will continue to get worse.
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