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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: University of Nizwa? |
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What's the scoop on the University of Nizwa? Is this just one more "me-too" university set up to cash in?
I must admit the very idea of a university in Nizwa has me smiling both from the incongruity of the idea from my now 15 year old experience in Oman and the idea of being that close to all the interesting things in the jebel. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Abu... did you try a search? There have been a number of discussions of the trials and tribulations of this place's first years.
Think... first year at SQU only reallly disorganized with mostly newbie teachers...
It has been quiet this year, so they must be improving.
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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VS, thanks I just did the search and turned up the largely negative comments about ELS which, I gather, has been contracted to run the foundation program EFL classes.
I guess I'm wondering about the "other end" of the eventual university degrees. I've seen a listing in the Chronicle of Higher Education looking for Ph.D. holders in most fields. This is what caught my attention. I enjoyed my life as an EFL instructor in the Gulf (and elsewhere) -- though like VS I arrived with an MA and never had to experience the "ground floor" jobs.
But the life of a pure and simple EFL teacher is really behind me now as I've been a professor of applied linguistics and culture studies for the past 10 years. Still, if I could teach upper division courses in Nizwa I'd certainly consider the possibility. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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That would be an interesting possibility. By now they should be having students who have made it out of the preparation classes. I wonder who is managing the upper level courses... I would hope that it is NOT ELS.
I hope someone shows up with some details...
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NeilSD
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Houstonopolis, Republic of Texas
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: Faculty positions @ U Nizwa |
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OK, my registration was approved, I can finally delurk!
As a followup to abufletcher, I've applied for a faculty position at U Nizwa in Statistics (also to Oman Medical College in Sohar). We'll see if either gets any interest.
abufletcher, would you mind expanding at little on your comment
"the very idea of a university in Nizwa has me smiling ... from the incongruity of the idea"?
Nizwa does seem to be somewhat in the hinterlands. It also looks like the natural setting is fairly spectacular (which I think the second part of your comment alluded to).
I know this is specifically an ESL/EFL site, but I've found a lot of useful and relevant information for other academic job seekers. I hope no one minds? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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When Abufletcher and I were in Oman, Nizwa was a common weekend trip to visit the Friday animal souk. It does have a very scenic location, but I must say that as much I enjoyed visiting it, I really wouldn't want to live there. (with the choice of the two, I would take the OMC job for the capital location - JMHO... should be higher level students too...)
We're happy to share info with a fellow educator. But often if you want specific information relating to the situation within your field, we may not know all the answers.
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Faculty positions @ U Nizwa |
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NeilSD wrote: |
abufletcher, would you mind expanding at little on your comment "the very idea of a university in Nizwa has me smiling ... from the incongruity of the idea"? |
There was a time in Oman's history when the country was known as "Muscat and the Oman" with "the Oman" designating the interior of the country vs. a small area of development on the coast centered on Muscat. Nizwa was the main center in the Interior and it fact was the site for an insurrection (by the Imam of Nizwa) against the current Sultan's father which led to a brief "civil war." If you wander the mountains behind Nizwa it is still possible to find little metal bits of exploded ordinance!
While I agree with VS about Nizwa being the "weekend trip" Nizwa itself was almost always just a stopping/staging point for some further more exotic destination. When I first came to Oman in 1988 Nizwa was pretty exotic with a funky old suq in the shadow of an ancient adobe fort and a weekly goat market that brought in all kinds of interesting looking people. By the time I left in 1994, the old suq had been torn down and replaced with a somewhat soulless new complex of buildings and the old goat market had moved to another location at the edge of town. Typically I'd drive out to Nizwa and stop for some gas and a couple of shuwarma before continuing on to either Bahla for a bit more of the "old time" Oman and/or up into the jebel. If you're a hiker there are some truly spectacular places in the Jebel Akhthar behind Nizwa.
BTW, I personally think Sohar is dull as dirty. When I was in Oman Sohar was primarily a bunch of small shops and farms. Granted it has grown significantly but it's still at least an hour away from the Muscat area. I'd rather be driving in from Nizwa than down from Sohar. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I misread... when I saw OMC, I thought it was the branch in Muscat.
That said, is there a 4 lane to Nizwa yet? The road from Sohar is great to Muscat and it is also about the same distance to Dubai if you want a taste of... tasteless consumerism.
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abufletcher
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
That said, is there a 4 lane to Nizwa yet? |
Actually, I understand there is! I hear that they had extended the freeway that stopped just beyond SQU when we were there all the way out to Nizwa. |
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TEETOM
Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: University of Nizwa |
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ELS is not to be trusted. It has also lost the contract with the University of Nizwa for next academic year and has gone in to nasty mode.
The students are the absolute worst I have very taught--and don't expect any help\support from administration--it seems to be a cash cow. |
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stoth1972
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 674 Location: Seattle, Washington
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: Relaying a friend's comments on Nizwa |
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I wish she logged on more often to post, but let me relay what I do know about the university based on my friends comments.
She's actually been with ELS at the university for the last 2 academic years. Despite ELS and their not-so-great reputation, my friend said she really didn't experience those issues. Up until just a few weeks ago, ELS had the contract with the university. Apparently, the uni has opted to part ways for the upcoming year (I think teachers there are still waiting to find out if they have summer work or not). Initially, ELS told the teachers that none of them would be allowed to leave the company for the uni, and that the uni was not allowed to recruit from the pool of ELS teachers. If the teachers were to remain with ELS, they were all to be relocated (after the school year ended) to other parts of Oman-most likely working in the academy classes. In the end, none of this came to fruition, and the university opted not to follow ELSs mandate of not recruiting. I believe Nizwa is actually continuing to hire for their foundation classes (direct hires) even now. It sounds like those soon-to-be former ELS teachers who have offers from the uni can accept without hassle. Saying that, the uni salary offers are a bit lower than they were expected to be.
The students, based on my friend's description, are generally quite nice (not academically speaking). After having taught a mixed bag of nuts in other Gulf unis, these students are, if nothing else, quite sweet.
Pros of working/living in Nizwa: Small town charm, peaceful, close enough to Muscat and Dubai (but not too close), great chance to gain uni experience in the Gulf
Cons of working/living in Nizwa: Small town gossip (I hear that a lot of the teachers are gossipy and enjoy stirring up crap...a bit on the immature side in some cases), only 1 month holiday in the summer (whatever happened to teachers' summer holidays??)
We shared a pretty crappy teaching experience in the UAE, so her assessment of Nizwa being done in comparison to that hellish 10 months. |
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stoth1972
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 674 Location: Seattle, Washington
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: One more thing... |
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Friends who were in Nizwa 4 years ago and my friend currently there describe 2 very different towns. The population has grown, and the number of foreigners there has increased significantly. My friend who taught there 4 years ago wore hejab and abaya just to 'fit in' while she did he teaching practice. I do believe there's one town 'watering hotel'. If you like the slow pace of life with access to the fast lane, this sounds like a good match. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Very strange Stoth... I have been involved in teaching in Oman since the late 80's and I have never heard of teachers being required to wear hijab. You said that it was her choice to 'fit in.' I don't believe that I would have made that move myself - even in Nizwa.
Even back in the 80's though they have always had weekend expat visitors and in the last 10 years - many tourists, so they are aware that non-Muslims do not dress the same as they do... not to mention television. But I would still recommend that women teachers dress very conservatively now, though I feel that there is no necessity for any non-Muslim to wear hijab then or now.
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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It was with some academy that did ESL, computers, and a few other classes. She was set up with a host family during this teaching practice, and she knew no other foreigners in Nizwa. Perhaps the circle she moved in was more conservative. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a rather unusual situation. Isn't this about the time that University of Nizwa started? There probably weren't many expats living there, but they were used to foreigners and our 'odd' ways.
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