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vikdk
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| I don't talk about myself as I don't consider who I am to be relevant to the discussion. The discussion is not about me it is about what I post. In fact one of the rules of this board I believe is to discuss the post not the person making the post. |
Rules or no rules (aint they there to be broken) - I think it's very relevant to know something of the background of the poster - gives real street cred to know what kinda guy is posting such ace advice
By the way Im a kindy teacher with just under 3 years experience here - not much cred, but at least I'm not so long winded and try to be amusing  |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| In light of the recent betrayal by Yahoo, resulting in a prison sentence for a Chinese national, what would "Buxiban" do if the authorities said, " Give us a name or we block your sight in China?" I might ask the same of Dave's. We actually have no way of knowing who gave us up. It could happen quietly. the authorities note a poster, go to the host, get a name and then blacklist the poster so his visa will not be renewed. |
Although Tofuman's example is somewhat extreme, he does raise an interesting point relevant to users of Daves as well as any other site on the net. You as an individual are legally responsible for anything you post on the internet and websites can be forced by courts to reveal any information that they know about you in the event that action is taken against comments that are made. In the case of most websites this information would consist of your email address and IP address.
Provided that what you post is true, even if it is not favorable, then you have the right to post it. If what you post is an extension of the truth or overtly defammatory of a person or place then you could face legal rammifications. Websites provide you with an opportunity to have your say, but just as in the real world you are responsible for what you actually choose to say.
In answer to your question Tofuman, no, no one has been in contact with us requesting information about our sites users. |
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vikdk
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Provided that what you post is true, even if it is not favorable, then you have the right to post it. |
great advice C - you must be living in the same people's republic as me - you know the one without the great firewall, and where free-speech is both unlimited and encouraged:lol: |
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tofuman
Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 937
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Although American, I am at odds with many policies and interpretations of law in the USA, such as the right to bear arms, freedom of the press and other things.
Although something may be true, if a government decides it is not in the interest of the State to publicize that information, people in certain locations could be penalized for telling the Truth, contrary to the interests of the State. Posting on a website, even the truth, could be interpreted as contrary to public interest and therefore subject to investigation and retribution.
That may be a difficult concept for many Westerners to grasp, but it is reality in totalitarian systems. Often the lie is preferred to the truth. FTs see this on a much smaller scale in their daily dealings with FAOs and other administrators. Perhaps Solzhenitsyn captured this phenomena in some of his works. It catches some completely off guard because it is not in the consciousness of people and is contrary to the spirit and culture of Western societies nurtured by a Judaeo/Christian ethos. |
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vikdk
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: |
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hey Tofuman good points that not only help us understand the culture of censurship both on the web and in Chinese schools, but could also be used by those considering working in China to draw a simple mental picture of the FT role - so simple indeed that all you have to do, when imagining that new job, is just throw in a tiny bit of gulag  |
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