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SueH



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Location: Northern Italy
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: British Snobbery Reply with quote
Anytime now wrote:
I believe it was Prince Charles who said that English English is the only true "standard English". The rest of the country seems to take their cue from him.


Absolute cods; if anything people take the p1ss out of how he speaks. Gregorio's point is relevant - native speakers, if anything, are less prescriptive and they are coming from a position of confidence.

I've known reputable colleges in the UK employ non-native speakers in certain situations, and frankly there is a far greater awareness of world Englishes here in the UK than in some EFL expatriate enclave elsewhere: which is where I expect you are writing from.
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Anytime now



Joined: 29 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: ? Reply with quote
Cods! How provincial. And this from the country that pronounces "idea" as "I dear". How prescriptive! One really should get out and travel more and find out how English has truly become global.

Yours truly,
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John ELS



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Genoa, Italy
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: ? Reply with quote
Anytime now wrote:
Cods! How provincial. And this from the country that pronounces "idea" as "I dear". How prescriptive! One really should get out and travel more and find out how English has truly become global.

Yours truly,
Anytime Now


Do you even know what prescriptive means?
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SueH



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doesn't look like it John, does it. He doesn't even understand what I've written. Che burino.
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Anytime now



Joined: 29 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Get it Reply with quote
You really don't get it, do you? It's something you have to think about. You know, subtlety?
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John ELS



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Get it Reply with quote
Anytime now wrote:
You really don't get it, do you? It's something you have to think about. You know, subtlety?
Anytime Now

No I don't. Please enlighten me. I don't have time to think.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Thinking about it Reply with quote
Oh well, if you CAN'T think....
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horse



Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sarcasm: the last stand of a point scarcely worth making. Native speakers might recognise the phrase 'painting yourself into a corner'.....
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jnesta1



Joined: 31 May 2003
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Location: Here and there
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
To all except any time now:

I always wonder what the point is of someone who has to speak in generalities like his/hers and won't defend their point except with attacks? I sure agree with John here. It's certainly not that I can't think...it's just that I choose not to think about worthless points.

More to the point, those kinds of comments will get him banned sooner or later.
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paul, you can't work legally in Italy (in almost any case) without a citizenship from an EU member country. It's not just that British English is preferred - it's that UK citizens are almost the only ones who can get legal working papers. A school isn't going to go through the process to sponsor a non-EU citizen when there are many, many qualified EU member citizens to fill the positions.
That's not to say that you can't work illegally, but you don't sound like the type to take the risks.
You should probably check into the possibility of getting Italian citizenship through your family ties before considering the possibility of trying to find work there.
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spiral78



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