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Iam
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 43
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: Showing films in class/Copyright ? |
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Hi,
I've an aweful feeling this may be a somewhat naive question, but has anyone ever approached a movie company for permission to show excerpts from movies as part of a lesson?
If so, any luck?
My rather excitable teenagers are looking increasingly bored & getting more & more fractious, & I recall that in my first lesson with them they all but leapt from their seats at one stage, saying something about films being shown in another class.
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Khrystene

Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 271 Location: WAW, PL/SYD, AU
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Showing films in class/Copyright ? |
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Iam wrote: |
Hi,
I've an aweful feeling this may be a somewhat naive question, but has anyone ever approached a movie company for permission to show excerpts from movies as part of a lesson?
If so, any luck?
My rather excitable teenagers are looking increasingly bored & getting more & more fractious, & I recall that in my first lesson with them they all but leapt from their seats at one stage, saying something about films being shown in another class.
Iam. |
Hm, you want to watch showing films in class, I've recently had a complaint from a student, because I'd shown two in the last 6 months, and he wasn't impressed.
As for copyright, f*ck it.  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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I think most teachers don't bother contacting copyright holders and just show the movie.
But, if you are interested, you could try emailing or writing the studio or distributor. The usual process is a simple letter asking permission, stating your exact intent for using the movie, and and what parts. Stress the education part of it. You probably won't even get an anwer, but, you never know. The distributor may have some freebies they can send specifically geared towards education. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: copyright issue for films |
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As long as you aren't charging for showing the films, there really is not copyright issue as long as your copy is not a 'knockoff' copy!
As to showing them, I tend to show clips, ranging from 1 to 5 minutes, with worksheets, vocaulary, and/or discussion about the story driven off of the video. Most of the students like watching them (I find you usually can never please all of the students all of the time, I've had some students complain about using the required book for the class). |
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Iam
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 43
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Gainjin, are you sure?
I mean, I'm sure that the copyright warnings at the front of my DVDs specifically forbid schools showing films without permission, along with prisons & oilrigs (now there's a strange col-location).
I don't think the warning messages discriminate between for profit & not for profit showings.
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Khrystene

Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 271 Location: WAW, PL/SYD, AU
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Iam wrote: |
Gainjin, are you sure?
I mean, I'm sure that the copyright warnings at the front of my DVDs specifically forbid schools showing films without permission, along with prisons & oilrigs (now there's a strange col-location).
I don't think the warning messages discriminate between for profit & not for profit showings.
Iam. |
The simple answer there is, if you're worried, don't use them. |
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carnac
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 310 Location: in my village in Oman ;-)
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I use films all the time, after the students have had three solid days of exams, as a relaxer and another way of getting some English into their heads. I vary the type of film (action, romantic, comedy), the only rules being dialogue comprehension for the level (no subtitles allowed) and cultural/political sensitivity. Depending on the level, I ask questions or ask for written analysis.
As for permissions, I follow some basic rules:
1. Show anything you want (within culturally acceptable parameters). It's for educational purposes.
2. Never ask for permission.
3. On the chance that someone may question you on the use of the films, I would say "Oh, it's ok, no problem." (never been asked)
4. If the film police ever say anything (approximately the chance of a snowflake in hell) I would say "Duh, sorry, I'll never, never do it again!"
5. See (1) Do it some more, whenever you need it.
I would never lose sleep on this subject.
Sometimes I will show an excerpt during a regular class if it is germaine to what we are learning.
Justification: I provide popcorn gratis, more cultural learning. My argument to possible film lawyers (and any possible court) is that I am doing a service to the Western film industry in addicting malleable students to the crap the Western film industry is generally putting out.
Then we have to define what is "crap" and I win. In theory. Am I stealing? Nope, I'm EXPOSING students to new, different cultural stimulation.
New ideas, etc. What have they learned?
That if they work like hell they will have a small reward. And maybe suck in a little more English. |
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Not St Louis

Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Asia
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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The school I work at is using photocopied books and illegal software. I think the least of my worries is showing a movie I bought legit to my students. |
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