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Ella76



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: the low-down on saitama city Reply with quote

Hi all,

I've just been offered a job in Saitama city and as I know nothing about this place any info would be very much appreciated.

what's it like? all bad or are there any redeeming qualities?
Any nightlife or entertainment, restaurants or good places to shop? can it classify as "cosmopolitan and interesting" or will I be bored out my brain? Many foreigners around or will I stick out like a sore thumb? and how close is it really to Tokyo?

I don't have very long to decide so any info, tips, or advice would be a huge help!!!

thanks!
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Big John Stud



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: the low-down on saitama city Reply with quote

Ella76 wrote:
Hi all,

I've just been offered a job in Saitama city and as I know nothing about this place any info would be very much appreciated.

what's it like? all bad or are there any redeeming qualities?
Any nightlife or entertainment, restaurants or good places to shop? can it classify as "cosmopolitan and interesting" or will I be bored out my brain? Many foreigners around or will I stick out like a sore thumb? and how close is it really to Tokyo?

I don't have very long to decide so any info, tips, or advice would be a huge help!!!

thanks!



Saitama city is large. Many good restaurants and the rent is a lot cheaper than Tokyo. Not much of night life because so close to Tokyo. When I lived in Saitama I spent all my night life in Tokyo. However, I do believe there is some night life in Urawa.
You will not be bored unless you are a boring person. I had lots of fun in Saitama.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saitama's huge, whereabouts?
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Filinadian



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Saitama City is awesome! Reply with quote

I have posted a similar response a while back. Another person was asking questions about Saitama City. Basically Saitama City is made up of the three major cities in Saitama (Urawa + Omiya + Yono).

I often go to Omiya because it is a big station, it reminds me of Ikebukuro in a lot of ways. They renovated the station about a year ago, and they have new shops and restaurants all over. I prefer Omiya from other Tokyo cities because it has a lot of the things that Tokyo has to offer (Restaurants, Shops, a bit of Nightlife and also a Park). It isn't as crowded (even on the weekends) as most of the cities in Tokyo and the price of things are a bit cheaper too.

I don't know much about Urawa or Yono, but recently the JR Urawa Station is going through some major reconstruction, maybe similar to what Omiya Station went through a year ago. Things seem to be looking up for Urawa, better yet for Saitama City.

Check it out, it's a lot of fun and yes it is not boring, as long as you are not a boring person.



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Ella76



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a lot guys,

you really put my mind at ease. I was getting a little worried because a friend who had lived in Japan told me to avoid Saitama at all costs, so it's good to hear that it's not all bad.

If I had a choice, my prefered location would be Tokyo, as I like to be right in the middle of it all, but I guess if I can't have that, would Saitama be an ok substitute?....what do you think?

as for the specific location within Saitama, I'm not exactly sure, but I think it might be Omiya. Any opinions?....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not all people like Saitama - it sometimes is called dasaitama, or kusaitama by some people, as a joke.
It reminds me of the way that New
Yorkers make fun of New Jersey.

A lot of people live there because it is close to Tokyo but the rents are cheaper.
I have known people who got sick of the commute, so decided to live in one of Tokyo`s 23 wards in order to be closer to their jobs.
Kawagoe is probably the nicest place in Saitama ken.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's nice about it Brooks?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you live there, so you know.
I have only lived in Kanagawa.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would have been near Kawagoe and not any more, drive through it still, though. Oh yeah, okay, you are probably talking about the famous shopping street with the super old buildings, where they stashed all the treasures from marauding samurai back when. Yeah, that's pretty nice, once, for me anyway, and you'd never want to drive through there. I don't know; Omiya, Urawa, Kawagoe, not really more than eki-biru, no?
I would take Omiya, it has a thriving busking scene, and it's the big one.
You will be lucky to live there Ella. What do you like to do anyway?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why will I be lucky to live there?

anyway, not wanting to start a poll or anything, but if you guys had your choice, would you say it was better to live right in the middle of it all in the centre of Tokyo, or to live in the slightly less hectic outskirts in somewhere like...say...saitama? (commuting hassle aside)

I guess this is quite a big decision for me and one that I am not taking too lightly, so any opinions or advice from all you out there would be greatly appreciated!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it comes down to saving money on rent OR to be able to commute less to work and to spend more time at night in Tokyo.
For me, I live in Kanagawa, so if I am in Shibuya on a Saturday night, and it is 11 p.m. I would be thinking of heading to the station soon.
But people that live in Nakano or Ueno can keep drinking for another hour or so.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant if you were going to live in Saitama you would be lucky if it was Omiya, in my opinion. Why? Because it is the Tokyo of Saitama--it has the biggest station, more stuff, I don't know. I have lived in Saitama for over 5 years but not in Omiya, never go there either, don't have to, used to go to the bank there at Sonic-something or other. They had the only ATM around happening for me at the time.
As for here or there, Brooks pretty much summed things up for you, if you plan on partying than you would want to live in town, definitely.
When are you coming and did you get a job?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweetsee wrote:
I meant if you were going to live in Saitama you would be lucky if it was Omiya, in my opinion. Why? Because it is the Tokyo of Saitama--it has the biggest station, more stuff, I don't know. I have lived in Saitama for over 5 years but not in Omiya, never go there either, don't have to, used to go to the bank there at Sonic-something or other. They had the only ATM around happening for me at the time.
As for here or there, Brooks pretty much summed things up for you, if you plan on partying than you would want to live in town, definitely.
When are you coming and did you get a job?



I beg to differ! I guess liking a place is an individual! A place one person might like someone else might not. Nothing wrong with Omiya, however, I preferred living in Urawa. The rent was cheap and I was a short train ride from Ikebukuro my favorite place for night life. I also like the restuarants in Urawa cheap and tasty. There is also a large grocery store in a mall near Urawa station.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold on John, I prefer Urawa, too. I know Urawa, I don't know Omiya well. I thought someone deciding between here and Tokyo might prefer Omiya because it is bigger, on a grander scale. The only thing that attracts me to Omiya is the busking, lots of musicians play there, there is life.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyway, not wanting to start a poll or anything, but if you guys had your choice, would you say it was better to live right in the middle of it all in the centre of Tokyo, or to live in the slightly less hectic outskirts in somewhere like...say...saitama? (commuting hassle aside)


It really just depends on you. If you live in a place like Shinjuku, you'd better be sure you can handle it. Those kinds of places in Tokyo can be really fun, but also really hectic and crazy so you might end up hating it. It's one thing to visit those places, but another to live there everyday for a prolonged period. It's expensive, crowded, noisy but depending on you it may be either energizing or just plain stressfull. Some people thrive in bustling urban places like downtown Tokyo, others just crack and find it really hard to cope. Some people get overwhelmed. Also, bear in mind it won't be cheap to live anywhere downtown either, so you'd better make sure you can really afford it (or you may regret it...). My guess is if you have to be poor it's better to be that way in the suburbs than in a busy part of Tokyo...

I never lived in the suburbs at all, so I don't really know what it's like. Probably more laid back, not as much going on. But I doubt you'll ever be really bored, there should be stuff to do wherever you live. Again it depends on what you want.

I will say that if you're originally from the countryside back home, you may find it daunting to live in the middle of Tokyo for any extended period. Or if you're from a big city you might get used to it quickly and love it (in which case you might find Saitama boring). Personally I love real urban living and wouldn't want to live in the suburbs for any reason. But Saitama has some pretty urban parts too I think.

Final point: the commute is a serious consideration. If you're getting a packed train everyday for up to two hours just to get to work, then that's just terrible and will blight your overall experience in Japan (really!). If you're working in Saitama, I'd even suggest living there (or as close to there as possible - like Ikebukuro or something) just to avoid that.
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