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Are male Native Speakers just 'on the make'?
Yes, and why not!
15%
 15%  [ 3 ]
Yes and they behave awfully and are very often quite sleazy
26%
 26%  [ 5 ]
No, but we get women throwing themselves at us, what can we do but play along!?
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Maybe, I'm not sure
26%
 26%  [ 5 ]
No, just to lead normal lives and work like anyone
26%
 26%  [ 5 ]
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avolkiteshvara



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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Location: Seattle US

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Casual dating Reply with quote

The tone of the OP is a bit insulting. Maybe men take advantadge of the cache of being from US/UK. But women are voluntarily disregarding men from their culture and seeking out men from US/UK. What does that say about them that they automatically seek some one more educated and financially stable. It sounds just as materialistic as seeking out a woman who is beautiful. It seems to me the sword cuts both ways.

This the emphasis behind this post sounds like it is coming from the OPs disatisfaction with her own relationship or the lack of.
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Khrystene



Joined: 17 Apr 2004
Posts: 271
Location: WAW, PL/SYD, AU

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Casual dating Reply with quote

avolkiteshvara wrote:
The tone of the OP is a bit insulting. Maybe men take advantadge of the cache of being from US/UK. But women are voluntarily disregarding men from their culture and seeking out men from US/UK. What does that say about them that they automatically seek some one more educated and financially stable. It sounds just as materialistic as seeking out a woman who is beautiful. It seems to me the sword cuts both ways.

This the emphasis behind this post sounds like it is coming from the OPs disatisfaction with her own relationship or the lack of.


Don't ever ASSUME...

It actually came from keen observation, and a discussion had with friends who are both Native speakers [male and female] and some local lasses.

If you find it insulting, look at your ownself.


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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avolkit., a :lol:re you insinuating that western men are better educated and more financially stable??!! That's a laugh.............
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avolkiteshvara



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Avolkit., a :lol:re you insinuating that western men are better educated and more financially stable??!! That's a laugh.............


Didn't mean to insinuate that Western men were superior in any way. But the original arguement was that Eastern European women find Western men more educated and financially stable etc... and are therefore seeking relationships with these "superior" men; where as the guys are just out for a lay.

I see both actions as selfish only consumed with their own self interest. There for I don't judge either way. It seems to fall back to basic sociological make up of human. Men want to spread their sead and women want to find the best/fitest mate to have their children.
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Khrystene



Joined: 17 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

avolkiteshvara wrote:
It seems to fall back to basic sociological make up of human. Men want to spread their sead and women want to find the best/fitest mate to have their children.


And people accuse ME of generalising... sheeszuz... Rolling Eyes
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jpvanderwerf2001



Joined: 02 Oct 2003
Posts: 1117
Location: New York

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll flip the OP's question around a bit. Why do women in eastern Europe go after western men? Is it really because they think they're better-off financially or educationally? Is it really because they want to live in London or New York, where the streets are paved with gold?
or
Perhaps it's because:
* They're interesting. They're from a different culture, have had different experiences, etc.
* They aren't the local men. It's no secret that western men treat (I'll use Russia as an example) Russian women different than Russian men do. For better or worse is a matter of taste.
or
Myriad other reasons.

In my experience (two years in Ukraine, now in Russia), I've found that those (usually western women) who call western men "losers back home" are either a) bitter; b) envious; c) callous; or d) all of the above. Why? Perhaps because they don't have the success in the chosen country that the men do. I don't know, only they can answer.

- From your resident LBH. Wink
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reality



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: A hint of Jealousy Reply with quote

I detect a hint of jealousy in this posting, after all if I am attracted to someone from another Nationality, who speaks another language and even is a different Color. Then I will date her....

Its not my fault, that in the dying post-developed Countries. That most Women, want their Cake and eat it. No wonder, most of my friends have divorced Parents, and they hide away from a "relationship."

I can go on about the Western Ladies I have seen working in developing Countries. Who sleep around with local Guys, and even marry them. But I notice no one here, is criticising them!.

I even can list several Countries, were women visit as Sex Tourists from these post-developed Countries. Lets have some balance here.
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