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arioch36



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, Hong Kong and Macao don't require visas to get into (Don't really understand why) So maybe they don't require a visa to leave from those two places? Didn't really think about that
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Burl Ives



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Burled, PRC

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arioch36 wrote:
I would like to hear from anyone who claims to have gotten a residence permit while in China on a tourist visa.

I would like to hear from anyone who left the country on an expired visa

You have to have a visa to be in a country legally. Is there any country in the world where this is not true?

True, almost always, if you are asked for ID, the residence permit is what you show. So if you never switch schools (well, never want to legally switch schools) and never want to leave the country, you probably could get away with never having a current visa.


In two and a half years I've exited mainland China three times, each
time walking through Luo Hu between Shenzhen and HK. All three
times I've had valid residence permits. All three times my work visa had
expired lo-o-ng before. The two places at which I worked would always
arrange Z visas that would expire a few days after I ENTERED China.
(The two places I worked where Hunan universities. Whether that makes
anything any more legal, I don't know.)

As a side-note, it was only this last time exiting that I was directly
asked to surrender my residence permit. (In fact, it went like this:
Mainland Customs motions troubled at my expired visa; I say, "Maybe
you want this," producing my... residence permit. She asks me if
I plan to go back to recent-place-of-employment X and I say (Hell) no
and she says I have to give her this. So I did, right there in the
Customs hall.)

(And now that I think about it, this last time was the only occasion that
I exited without first preparing a z visa for my next entry. I guess that's
why I was asked this time for the residence permit. Ahhh, sweet insight,
come to me more often.)

Nowadays I'm a tourist. Soon I'll be a worker again. My future employer
is an eastern university, is currently housing me and made me stand in
the local PSB foyer while they registered my presence. It feels legitimate.
What the residence permit process will be, I don't know, but I suppose
I'll get another z visa first, so it won't be a residence permit on a tourist
visa.
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