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i kinda hate some of the people i've met here
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MikeyG



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

What do you mean?! That was of paramount importance!
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reddevil79



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Mole and Birria Kindness Reply with quote

I am sorry to hear about some of the negative experiences other teachers have had, but mine have been nothing but positive. This week, for example, I have not had to make one trip to the `abarrotes� as students have been brining me mole and birria to take home ever since I declared my love for those two dishes! Just one example of the many acts kinds of kindness people have shown me in this country.

There are good and bad people everywhere you go, be it in Mexico or wherever...
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Mexican mistrust Reply with quote

M@tt wrote:
dishonesty is not a core ingredient of french culture the way it is in mexico.

Here is a chicken and egg problem I've noticed in Mexico. Mexicans are often suspicious of each other! I've seen a gringo recover a lost credit card and at another time a wallet, intact, and other acts of honesty, but many Mexicans will say dishonesty is rampant in the culture. You only have to bring up the subject of Mexican politics to notice this phenomenon. Whether its real or accurate, many Mexicans seem have a suspicious nature, and I think that's a real cultural issue. As estadounidense, I don't think we're so different, but, on the other hand, Scandinavians as a whole seem to be honest in business and politics (as a UN survey confirmed) and hold their politicians to a much higher higher standard than us. I don't know if its just a self-image problem or whatever, but I do think M@tt has a point. Maybe its a sign he's actually well assimilated into the culture! Laughing
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Mexican mistrust Reply with quote

Cdaniels wrote:
. . . but many Mexicans will say dishonesty is rampant in the culture. You only have to bring up the subject of Mexican politics to notice this phenomenon.

I believe many people from the U.S. would say dishonesty is rampant in their culture/country as well. Do a lot of U.S. citizens use the word "honest" when describing U.S. politics? As a U.S. citizen, can you honestly say that you believe most of your fellow countrymen/women are honest?
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cwc



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Good point Reply with quote

I would say that we have a lot of weak-minded people in the US that look for the govt. to protect them from themselves. A man who has never suffered has never learned. I like Mexico because we have more freedom and more responsibility. As far as dishonesty goes, human nature will always be skewed towards the dark side. Nobody operates under positive reinforcement. We all obey our various masters to avoid punishment, negative reinforcement.
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Mexican mistrust Reply with quote

Cdaniels wrote:
As estadounidense, I don't think we're so different,

Ben Round de Bloc, this is why I bring up Scandivania. Americans expect dishonesty, and maybe that's why they get it. But generally speaking, (and this is a huge generalization) US citizens have more trust in the average fellow citizen, and this translates, or has some bearing on, national politics. I have faith that Republicans will suffer a backlash for T.Delay & Co's schemes, and that corruption in the Liberal party contributed to Stephen Harper's victory. Does anyone in Mexico believe that Mexican politics has a functioning mechanism for addressing corruption? It doesn't seem like it to me.
And yes, I believe most of the people in the US are honest, and human beings are basically honest. Most people want a good reputation and want to get recognized by their peers for having integrity. It only takes a very small number of people to wreck things, and I think that's exactly what happens.
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M@tt



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

b@stards stole my computer this time!!!! i went to california for the weekend and some @sshole stole a brand new laptop from my apartment. once again, it's somebody who knows me--either one of the guys working in the building, or someone i considered a friend and had previously invited over. hope he enjoys all my bank accounts, training documents that i need for work, 2000-3000 photos that i've taken over the past two years, and about 400 CDs i burned from my collection and then sold.
i want to kill somebody or cry.

thankfully i had a spare stashed away in the closet. we'll see what happens tomorrow when i talk to the management about the supposed vigilantes that guard the door. idiots.

robbed by someone i know in mexico tally: 8 times / 14 months
running tab of stolen goods: up around 40,000 pesos now.

love this fcuking country.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap, Matt, again that really sucks.

Is there no way to do some investigating to find out who? Any pawn shops close by where you could check? I know that's not much to go on, but sometimes you can luck out.
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cwc



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Use your head Reply with quote

Didn�t it dawn on you to take your laptop? You are a sitting duck. Don�t ever put your trust in a vigilante. Maybe you should think about protecting yourself and not expecting someone to do it for you.
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M@tt



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scene: cwc is standing next to his mother, who is lying in a hospital bed.

cwc's mother: son, i have breast cancer and i'm going to die in two weeks.
cwc: mom, didn't you ever think of checking yourself every six months? you pretty much asked for this.
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cwc



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: dudelookslikealady!! Reply with quote

Your analogy is weak and in very bad taste. Please retract.
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M@tt



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the majority of your posts are weak and in bad taste. does the fact that you want me to retract this mean that you actually have a sensitive side? i never would have known from the way you talk down to everyone on this board, like moonraven minus the eloquence. god forbid someone who steals thing be held accountable for his own actions. OF COURSE, every time i leave my apartment i should be expected to pack up all of my belongings and cart them along with me. the rest of you follow that little procedure, right? and how silly of me to think that door guards who you are paying to protect the building would ACTUALLY PROTECT THE BUILDING!! but then, this is mexico, and you seem to assume that nothing works here and you can't trust anyone, which simply validates the original point of this whole thread.
how much responsibility can i take for having someone break into my apartment while i'm on vacation? can anyone besides cwc enlighten me please?
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cwc



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: dudelookslikealady!! Reply with quote

If you go on vacation, it is always wise to secure your stuff whether in the USA or Mars. You had been ripped off seven times and you blindly put your trust in the doormen. You didn�t talk down to me. You insulted my mother by speaking of her death. It would be wise to post a short retraction to avoid further problems. That�s all I ask.
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