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paulmanser
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paulmanser
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Dont worry im the msot eager, action over words guy around.
Aside from qualifications how much MONEY would you bring to Poland.
In my Position its the best for saving up a nest egg before flying out to Poland. 10 000 zloty a good savings or over doing it?
For that 8 weeks in Poland with ELI from 3rd July I have so afr 3306 zloty, roughly 650 pounds.
the TESOL cours eim doing starts 27th May 06 and ends 23rd June roughly 06 so im only 2 months or so from starting the 4 week course that I badly need. |
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Pollux
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Try it in English, Paul. |
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paulmanser
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| haha, too lazy, just aiming in getting message across. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know only celta and trinity ask for degrees first. Uk university TESOL course DO NOT same for INTESOL and other providers.
Who mentioned TEFL international being legit anyway? I heard a story on this website about their centre in France or whereever it was was closed for some dodgy reason. |
Why not try reading the quote I posted? It is from Cambridge and clearly states that it is not required to have a degree before taking the CELTA. Centres can require that applicants have a degree but they do not have to. Look:
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Admission requirements: The course is open to both native speakers of English and those whose first language is not English. In either case a high level of proficiency in written and spoken English is required. Candidates are usually university graduates. Participants must
be at least 20 years old by the date of the start of the course. |
http://www.ttcentre.ih.com.pl/index.php?page=celta
The TEFL international centre in France was not closed for some dodgy reason. The lead trainer there from August to November last year, Craig Gambretto-Mckay, was fired apparently after complaints about his performance. He has now set up a rival course. I've known Bruce Veldhuisen online for seven years, he's an honest man. If the worst that you know about him and his organisation is that "their centre in France or whereever it was was closed for some dodgy reason" then I suggest you shut up. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. |
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paulmanser
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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oh shut the hell up. Forget about it.
I've heard plenty of rumours about bad stuff with TEFL international, anywya ive made my bed with another course and unlikely to dish out 1000 pounds for another course so...... |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: |
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oh shut the hell up. Forget about it.
I've heard plenty of rumours about bad stuff with TEFL international, anywya ive made my bed with another course and unlikely to dish out 1000 pounds for another course so...... |
You've heard plenty of bad stuff about TEFL international? Do tell us about it. Please. Give us the benefit of your expert knowledge. We'd all benefit from it.
You seem to know far far more than anybody else here about teaching EFL and about Poland. Thank you for coming here and enlightening us. What would we have done without you? Probably we wouldn't have realised that it is a good idea to pay some company �660 for the privilege of working for them for free for eight weeks. We wouldn't have realised that it's an excellent idea to spend �400 on a worthless course which qualifies us to do b*gger all. We wouldn't have understood that all the best jobs can be applied for two and a half years before we want to start them. We wouldn't have known that it is much much smarter to spend �880 on a course which is far far less widely recognised than a course like the CELTA which costs �640.
I'm sure that I speak for the entire forum (if Warren and I agree then there must be universal consensus) when I say that we are so looking forward to you next pearls of wisdom. |
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paulmanser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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oh I will find it about TEFL international dont you worry haha, Just takes 15 misn of broswing onc eI rememebr what website I found it at. tonnes in fact.
400 was for the paid palcemetn actually NOT for a course? WTF!
880 was for a COT accred course in prague yes, the only reason why CELTA is THAT cheap, 660 is because its in Poland, check USA out it tops 2000 dollars, get me?
ok take this how many TEFLers worldwide and how mnay HAVE CELTA qualification? good question right.
Like greg said you must wear your TEFL job like a badge, chill out, taking life way too seriously.
You obviously have not taken stduent programs in the past then? why Ive heard of ppl paying 4000 for a world wide trip for 1 year and thats without pocket money just fees and thats working like a white slave in camops with odd days off to visit places. This ELI program is my 2nd program after cmap america and msot likely my last.
Its for good will and experience, if you cant grasp what I ahve just typed then its not me with the problem here. again, chill out |
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paulmanser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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If your gonna mock COT courses then you might as well mock TEFL international and oher coruses that are NOT celta/trinity. whcih in that case are thousands. My course in prague is sure a show no where enar as good as a CELTA i get u there but its sure as hell AINT worthless that I will fight u for. I wouldnt pay 1 penny for a TEFL inter course.
now im off for a BATH and when I get back to this I will copy and PASTE the stuff I found out elsewher eon ehre which wont be hard and your then be silenced by it. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| paulmanser wrote: |
| oh I will find it about TEFL international dont you worry haha, Just takes 15 misn of broswing onc eI rememebr what website I found it at. tonnes in fact. |
We'll all look forward to it then. I'll email Bruce at TEFL international about this thread. TEFL international are planning to set up in Poland so the last thing that they need is a guy who knows less than nothing about TEFL bad-mouthing them.
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| 880 was for a COT accred course in prague yes, the only reason why CELTA is THAT cheap, 660 is because its in Poland, check USA out it tops 2000 dollars, get me? |
Your point is what? Costs are very similar in Poland and Czech. So why does the under-accepted INTESOL course cost 33% more than the CELTA?
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| ok take this how many TEFLers worldwide and how mnay HAVE CELTA qualification? good question right. |
Depends on what you call a teacher. A better question than yours would be how many job ads specify CELTA as a requirement for prospective teachers.
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| You obviously have not taken stduent programs in the past then? why Ive heard of ppl paying 4000 for a world wide trip for 1 year and thats without pocket money just fees and thats working like a white slave in camops with odd days off to visit places. This ELI program is my 2nd program after cmap america and msot likely my last. |
Yes you are right. They are generally the people who can't get onto real programs like Peace Corps or VSO. I did my time in a real program thanks. |
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Alex Shulgin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| My course in prague is sure a show no where enar as good as a CELTA i get u there but its sure as hell AINT worthless that I will fight u for. I wouldnt pay 1 penny for a TEFL inter course. |
Why pay 33% more for a course which you are happy to admit is not as good as the one you plan to take? If you're throwing money away can you toss some into my bank account? And chuck a bit to Warren as well.
I shouldn't worry about needing to pay for TEFL international's course, you probably wouldn't get on it.
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| now im off for a BATH and when I get back to this I will copy and PASTE the stuff I found out elsewher eon ehre which wont be hard and your then be silenced by it. |
"your then be silenced by it"?
English, motherf*cker! Do you speak it?
You found it on the internet? Well hell! It must be true! |
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paulmanser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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No they are programs for people whom are gap year students or like the look of the program. I take it your rpogrma needed degree or soemthing to do it? well done for you lol.
Most ppl can get degrees nowadays. Wine studies, media studies, golf management hmm, im mocking myself here too because its easier for me to get degree. criminology and pyshcology is what i'll eb doing this sept by distance elarning or attending canterbury uni either way distance as in ICS degree but thats a back up.
I rarely hear about peace corps, american, has to be. Everyone has their own interests and preference of organisatiosn for certain abroad experiences.
I know about TEFL going to Poland, I was actually going to apply for it till I read thats its coming this May is it? or something like that. To tell you the truth I made a applciation to TEFL international for Barceloma course incase you wanna know. I didnt go through with ti though ebcasue all they wnated was my list of qualifications, which I gave and next morning recieved, thanks your on the course, no tests ect. |
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