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Married, Muslim Teacher looking for school

 
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q8teacher



Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Married, Muslim Teacher looking for school Reply with quote

This is my first time to post. I currently work in Kuwait and have been looking for a school in KSA for two years over the internet with no luck. I have a BA, 7 years experience in elementary, am a native english speaker, and have three years in the gulf. I had a license until this year when it expired. What I want to know is why is it so hard to find a job with my marriage status, religion and experience? I thought offers would be falling in my lap. I usually find only language centers-not schools andy find after applying that they're looking for men only, or they don't accept married people. I'm baffled-ideas? Suggestions?
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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't say what your nationality is, nor what type of 'school' you are applying to. I'm assuming you are applying to elementary schools, as that is where your experience seems to be. One reason I can think of for your lack of success is that you come from a "Western" country. To the best of my knowledge, most Saudi schools only employ teachers from Arabic-speaking countries. There aren't that many 'international' schools which take on native-English speakers, and those that do will of course only want teachers with credentials relevant to that of the national system they are working in: "Australian" schools will want teacers from the Australian system and so on.

As for being married, yes, many schools prefer to take on single people, for obvious financial reasons. Not sure what your comment about 'schools looking for men only' means. As I'm sure you know, all schools in KSA are segregated by gender, so there would be no question of any educationa establishment taking on both women and men, unless they are operating two parallel schools, one for males, the other for females.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried Manarat ?
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q8teacher



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try looking up Manarat. It sounds familiar. I guess I'm frustrated because I applied for a school in Medina that required a female with a mahram-they even specified they wanted a practicing Muslim-it sounded perfect for me and my family, and I met all the requirements but never heard from them. I was pretty shocked. To reply to Cleopatra, I'm American, and all my training was in America, plus 3 of the 7 years experience. I do know about the segregation, but the trouble is, many of the companies that advertise for teachers don't state they are looking for male only until after you apply.
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crashartist1



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can't hire a women from outside Saudi Arabia. You can get the VISA's for them only if they are in the medical field. If your husband was here already there would be absolutely no problem finding a job.
You might be perfect for many places in your education, experience religous beliefs and practices but unless you have the sponsorship of a member of the royal family then you will not be able to get a job in the KSA. Have your husband find a job and come first then you can come over.

Does this sound right everyone?

poorESLteacher
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are HUGE numbers of Saudi women looking for employment as teachers.

Another possibility is Saudi Arabian International Scools - American School. It was run by Saudi Arabian Airlines, Not sure of what is happening with them these days. they hired wetern teachers - especially teaching couples.
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Stephen Jones



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does this sound right everyone?
No! It is simply untrue.

There is nothing stopping the lady applying for a job; the problem is that she is in competition with people on their husband's visas, and they cost less even though it is often illegal to employ them.

The main problem is that the only elementary schools are the embassy schools, and most employ their own nationals.

Manarat is one place to try. I believe Jeddah, Riyadh and al-Khobar all recruit separately. I suspect the girl's sections are still treated as very much the poor relations however.

Kuwait is another possibility. Does it have to be Saudi?
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EFL Teacher



Joined: 19 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,

What about the man's sections and the mens on their wife's visas?
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite sure about your question.

Couples have been employed by Manarat. I presume they would also employ men in Saudi on the wife's visa, though what they should do is transfer the sponsorship to themselves.

Your exact question?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They can't hire a women from outside Saudi Arabia.


You're simply misinformed here. I am a single woman teacher who was hired outside the country, and I know several others in the same situation.

It is true that many schools prefer to take on the spouses of men already working in the Kingdom, as it is both cheaper and easier for them to do so rather than to go through the whole visa /sponsership process. However, it's very wrong to say that companies or schools cannot hire women from abroad. They can and they do.
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