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Jazz1975
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 Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: Is this normal? |
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| I applied to AEON two weeks ago and was told that I would hear back from them within this length of time if I was invited to a group interview/information session. So far, I haven't heard anything. Needless to say, I'm feeling like the biggest reject. Question is: Do a lot of people NOT even make it to this point? I had to ask this because it seems as though most, if not everyone, manages to make it to this point even though not everyone gets an offer of employment. What do you think? |
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SDSUMarcus01
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They reject people who look like they can actually get a decent job in Japan, know how to teach, or can seak the language fairly well.
I'm actually thinking of rejecting them. I have a group interview coming up and I feel like just cancelling. The more I read about the eikaiwa industry, the more I think its a scam. |
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Chris_Travel_the_world
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| SDSUMarcus01 wrote: |
They reject people who look like they can actually get a decent job in Japan, know how to teach, or can seak the language fairly well.
I'm actually thinking of rejecting them. I have a group interview coming up and I feel like just cancelling. The more I read about the eikaiwa industry, the more I think its a scam. |
I sense someone has a beef with Aeon? Seriously though, all the people who got a call back from the first day of interviews were the people wearing suits, with short hair, good lessons and people skills.
I found Aeon was very punctual with their reply. The said they would contact me with a job offer in two weeks and it was only 10 days.
Perhaps you might want to give them a call. They told me after they offered me an interview to call if I had any questions or concerns.
Just my 2 cents. |
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SDSUMarcus01
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Chris_Travel_the_world wrote: |
| SDSUMarcus01 wrote: |
They reject people who look like they can actually get a decent job in Japan, know how to teach, or can seak the language fairly well.
I'm actually thinking of rejecting them. I have a group interview coming up and I feel like just cancelling. The more I read about the eikaiwa industry, the more I think its a scam. |
I sense someone has a beef with Aeon? Seriously though, all the people who got a call back from the first day of interviews were the people wearing suits, with short hair, good lessons and people skills.
I found Aeon was very punctual with their reply. The said they would contact me with a job offer in two weeks and it was only 10 days.
Perhaps you might want to give them a call. They told me after they offered me an interview to call if I had any questions or concerns.
Just my 2 cents. |
I don't have beef with Aeon, I said I HAD AN INTERVIEW (WITH THEM) coming up. I have beef with the eikaiwa industry because I'm starting to feel they provide a product that doesn't do what it's supposed to.
They're the only eikaiwa I'd consider working for, but now I'm not really considering working for an eikaiwa. |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| Chris_Travel_the_world wrote: |
I sense someone has a beef with Aeon? Seriously though, all the people who got a call back from the first day of interviews were the people wearing suits, with short hair, good lessons and people skills.
I found Aeon was very punctual with their reply. The said they would contact me with a job offer in two weeks and it was only 10 days.
Perhaps you might want to give them a call. They told me after they offered me an interview to call if I had any questions or concerns.
Just my 2 cents. |
I think you misread my initial post. I said I DID NOT EVEN GET AN OFFER TO ATTEND THE GROUP INTERVIEW/INFORMATION SESSION. I am royally po'd about it. I am asking if this is normal since most people seem to make it at least to this point. There is NO JOB OFFER to worry about or whether I dressed appropriately or not. They already told me to f*** off without even giving me a chance to prove myself. |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| SDSUMarcus01 wrote: |
| They reject people who look like they can actually get a decent job in Japan, know how to teach, or can seak the language fairly well. |
I don't agree with this. I found out a few days ago that a friend of mine, who is a high school teacher by profession, had been accepted by AEON back in the day. He has plenty of experience and is good at what he does. He ended up not going as he got a raise where he worked at the time (in Toronto). |
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TokyoLiz
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| Jazz 1975, I highly doubt that it reflects on you personally. I'd guess it's more about numbers of applicants or quotas they have to fill. |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| Jazz 1975, I highly doubt that it reflects on you personally. I'd guess it's more about numbers of applicants or quotas they have to fill. |
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but could you please expand on that? I'm just trying to get a feel of possible reasons I could've been rejected. I'm thinking of calling them tomorrow to get some general feedback. I'm just smartin' from this. I feel like the biggest loser right now. Like who the f*** doesn't AT LEAST make it to the group interview? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Jazz1975 wrote: |
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| Jazz 1975, I highly doubt that it reflects on you personally. I'd guess it's more about numbers of applicants or quotas they have to fill. |
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but could you please expand on that? I'm just trying to get a feel of possible reasons I could've been rejected. I'm thinking of calling them tomorrow to get some general feedback. I'm just smartin' from this. I feel like the biggest loser right now. Like who the f*** doesn't AT LEAST make it to the group interview? |
Jazz
I have no idea why you may have been 'rejected'. As far as a I know AEON and NOVA etc dont tell you why you dont pass. It is highly subjective and akin to a lottery
What I usually tell people is that instead of putting all your eggs in one basket you should apply for several schools and have a 'back-up' in case one application doesnt pan out. It softens the blow if you have several plates spinning all at once.
Can I ask what your resume was like and did you include a photo? |
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PAULH
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Jazz you said you havent heard back from them. That is different from them actually rejecting you. They may have not scheduled an interview yet for you.
Give them a call and find out whether you are still being considered, rather than jumping to conclusions. If they say no, ask WHY. Don't ASSUME anything. |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| PAULH wrote: |
Jazz you said you havent heard back from them. That is different from them actually rejecting you. They may have not scheduled an interview yet for you.
Give them a call and find out whether you are still being considered, rather than jumping to conclusions. If they say no, ask WHY. Don't ASSUME anything. |
Well, it IS a rejection in a way because I did get an email from them conrfirming that they received my application and that they will be in touch "within two weeks" if I've been invited to a group session. I sent my application two weeks ago (March 9th) and judging my what people say on here, AEON is pretty on the ball with getting back to them. One of the other posters said they heard back from them in six days. Seeing as I am applying to the Canadian Branch (in Toronto), I did not submit a photo as it was not asked of me. I am actually thinking of calling them tomorrow to follow up. If they tell me I have not been invited to an interview, I will ask for possible reasons for this. I think I may have f***ked up cause my essay was 4 pages double spaced and I made a mistake that was the result of bad proofreading, not because of my lack of grammatical ability (though they probably don't know that)  . I will also be applying to NOVA, GEOS and ECC so no, my eggs are not all in one basket. |
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PAULH
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So it sounds like its no all AEON's fault. As we say her "The show ain't over till the fat lady sings". Get an answer and then decide to bi-tch about it. You are counting your chickens here.
Second. Job-hunting is an inexact science and your employer wont be Canadian or from the US. Like I said, its a lottery and some its pure luck you get hired. You will make mistakes, have bad interviews and write sloppy CVs. Do everything that is asked of you, assume nothing and try to learn from your mistakes. I have made mistakes too, but you have to take it on the chin and try again. A bad workman blames his tools.
Dont worry so much about what other people do. The process takes time and everyone is different. If its two weeks and one day over, ring up and ask them, rather than berate them for being late. They are hiring you, not the other way around.
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Jazz1975 wrote: |
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Well, it IS a rejection in a way because I did get an email from them conrfirming that they received my application and that they will be in touch "within two weeks" if I've been invited to a group session. I sent my application two weeks ago (March 9th) and judging my what people say on here, AEON is pretty on the ball with getting back to them. |
I dont know about canada but in my country a rejection letter begins with "we regret to inform you you are not being considered", or some such form letter. Not just cold indifference or being ignored.
Seems you are holding them to their word and getting riled as the deadline for notification has passed. You learn all about patience when dealing with Japanese people. |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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So it sounds like its no all AEON's fault. As we say her "The show ain't over till the fat lady sings". Get an answer and then decide to bi-tch about it. You are counting your chickens here.
Second. Job-hunting is an inexact sc ience and your employer wont be canadian or US. Like I said its a lottery and some its pure luck you get hired. You will make mistakes, have bad interviews and write sloppy CVs.
Do everything that is asked of you, assume nothing and try to learn from your mistakes. I have made mistakes too, but you have to take it on the chin and try again. A bad workman blames his tools.
Dont worry so much about what other people do. The process takes time and everyone is different. If its two weeks and one day over, ring up and ask them, rather than berate them for being late. They are hiring you, not the other way around. |
I never said it was all AEON's fault. As for job-hunting, I didn't just graduate yesterday so I know about what you're saying. And I'm certainly NOT "a bad workman who blames his tools".
I also did everything that was asked of me which is why I did the 4 page double spaced essay. Essays are supposed to be a minimum of 500 words.
Fair enough, I will call them tomorrow to follow up if I still don't hear anything. Although, they did state quite clearly in their confirmation email that they cannot contact unsuccessful applicants. So I'm not completely b-itching prematurely.
As for rejection letters in Canada, they also say "We regret to inform you that you are not being considered..."
The one thing that HASN'T really been answered by anyone yet is this: Is it NORMAL for someone to NOT even make it to the group interview? |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| PAULH wrote: |
| If its two weeks and one day over, ring up and ask them, rather than berate them for being late. |
No plans to berate them, none at all. You're right though. I'll wait until Friday. If I hear nothing then, I will follow up since that is officially the end of the work week for most people. One point that I know we will have to agree to disagree on is this: In my experience, the jobs I've applied for clearly state on the ad that only successful applicants will be contacted. Which means, that no phone call equals rejection. This is why I've come to the conclusion that AEON has rejected me. Anyways, I'm gonna go and work on my NOVA application and try to get it off ASAP, especially since I'm so close to finishing it. |
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