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One-way not possible? (Flight/Visa/etc)
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lollercauster



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: One-way not possible? (Flight/Visa/etc) Reply with quote

I read a poll that said a lot of people choose one-way tickets. But I'm having a hard enough time securing a visa from the Houston consulate. They don't allow mailed-in applications anymore and I'm just trying to get...what..a tourist visa I guess? I have two friends in Shanghai and they thought maybe I could go to Hong Kong and just get a Visa there (business) and then take a flight to Shanghai. However, they apparently don't let you into the country if you have a one-way, so how exactly does one use a one-way ticket? I need the cheapest way of getting there basically and nothing is working out.

Anything?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

???

Unless they changed things as of two weeks ago I would say go for it.

There is a difference between someone telling you that you are not supposed to fly in on a one-way ticket and then actually going through a travel agency and stepping onto the plane.

Get the school that you want to work for to fax you an invitation letter and then take it to the embassy when applying for your business or work visa.

I don't see why you would need an invitation letter to come in on a tourist visa but then you might have to leave the country and come back in if you want to change it to another type of visa- not much fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

immigration at the chinese border (land crossings) will not stop you from getting in with a one way ticket (they wont even be checking) . the problem you might encounter is at the airline check in counter in the states. if you try to board a plane to hong kong or anywhere outside the US on a one way ticket, they might refuse you boarding as they have no proof that you have the means to return home if immigration at your destination refuses you entry.

has happened to me twice and on both occasions i had to purchase full fare (and fully refundable) tickets from my destination to home. its a pain in the ass but sometimes necessary.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to get there cheaply; that is my major concern. I would rather fly directly to Shanghai, but if I have to fly to Hong Kong first then I'll do it. I was mainly doing that since I have to go through a travel agent to secure a tourist visa from the consulate. However, if I just buy a one-way ticket from an online vendor and they don't stop me at the US airport, then I shouldn't have a problem you say? They really don't check it in China? Because I can come up with all kinds of stories.

Oh yeah, and I don't have a job lined up yet. My friends suggest I not do that and I don't want to commit to it full-time anyway. I'd rather get there and get settled in for the first 2 weeks while I look for a job. That was their suggestion.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all depends on the airline. i was refused boarding by air canada twice, once going to thailand and once going to europe as i had no proof of onward travel. however when i flew with northwest to hong kong on one way tickets, with chinese visa in passport on one occasion, i had no problems. some airlines seem to understand that many of us enter countries by land crossings and ext to a third country by another land crossing and thus a return ticket is redundant. however it has more to do with policy. if you're refused entry to china on a one way ticket, then the airline that allowed you to board the plane in the first place is responsible for getting you back to point a.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it worth the risk? I really would rather get a one-way and I can find a decent one from maybe...United Airlines. Wasting around 300-500 will really piss me off.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

call the airline you plan to fly on. they'll tell you their policy over the phone, and get the person's name too. if they say a one way is ok, then when you check in with a one way ticket, chances are you'll have no troubles. you can soemtimes find this info on airline websites too. if not, you can always buy the refundable return portion of the ticket, go to china and then send the unused ticket back for a refund. altho with air canada, this took 6-8 weeks to process. further, sometimes, a return ticket is nearly the same price as a one way anyway. many factors involved.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: One-way not possible? (Flight/Visa/etc) Reply with quote

lollercauster wrote:
I read a poll that said a lot of people choose one-way tickets. But I'm having a hard enough time securing a visa from the Houston consulate. They don't allow mailed-in applications anymore and I'm just trying to get...what..a tourist visa I guess? I have two friends in Shanghai and they thought maybe I could go to Hong Kong and just get a Visa there (business) and then take a flight to Shanghai. However, they apparently don't let you into the country if you have a one-way, so how exactly does one use a one-way ticket? I need the cheapest way of getting there basically and nothing is working out.

Anything?


You didn't state the PURPOSE of your VISIT to CHINA... A tourist visa is good for a tourist, and a Business visa is for a businessman; if you apply in the U.S.A. for a business visa then they have good reasons to vet you, including checking on whether you are going to return within a reasonable period of time.

Tourists don't normally hop over for a whole year. There ain't that much to sightsee in China, or in SHanghai alone, for that matter.

If you are trying to get a paid position in Shanghai, then it would be more honest to apply for a job, get an invitation letter and receive the formal work visa.

Anything else is dodging the law.
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KES



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The solution is simple. Buy a REFUNDABLE return ticket to malaysia or somewherse close to China then fly over. Cash in the extra ticket when you arrive.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. That would be much cheaper too I imagine. I have very limited cash, so buying a refundable ticket home probably wouldn't be very affordable. Well, first I'll need to secure a one-way ticket and if I have to buy another ticket there, hopefully it'll be possible. Most of the travel deal websites aren't very good.

EDIT: And I'm aware tourists don't hop over for a year, I don't plan on telling them that. I'll figure out something. I don't want to procure a job beforehand, that defeats the purpose of being in Shanghai and not being tied down.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am getting a one-way flight for either May 31st or June 7th becaue they both offers fares of around $610. I'll have my original birth certificate by tomorrow and I'll begin the passport process; at most 6 weeks. I hope it doesn't take that long though, because I need it to apply for the tourist visa. So hopefully by mid-May I get the passport and then I send that in with my application to a travel agent in Houston (I've talked to a few) and I should get it in a few days, ...ideally before I'm supposed to leave!

Should I go ahead and buy the plane ticket now given that it's going to go up in price significantly? It's with United Airlines and I talked to a woman who works there and they said that they only require a visa and passport officially. She said the Chinese might not let me though. But from what I've gathered here, they are lax? Or they just didn't check you that time.

Should I get my ticket if the time is so close? It's an extra $60 for expedited shipping with my passport.

Thoughts once again?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lollercauster wrote:
Well, I am getting a one-way flight for either May 31st or June 7th becaue they both offers fares of around $610. I'll have my original birth certificate by tomorrow and I'll begin the passport process; at most 6 weeks. I hope it doesn't take that long though, because I need it to apply for the tourist visa. So hopefully by mid-May I get the passport and then I send that in with my application to a travel agent in Houston (I've talked to a few) and I should get it in a few days, ...ideally before I'm supposed to leave!

Should I go ahead and buy the plane ticket now given that it's going to go up in price significantly? It's with United Airlines and I talked to a woman who works there and they said that they only require a visa and passport officially. She said the Chinese might not let me though. But from what I've gathered here, they are lax? Or they just didn't check you that time.

Should I get my ticket if the time is so close? It's an extra $60 for expedited shipping with my passport.

Thoughts once again?

buy the ticket, but before you do buy, make sure you can change it without any penalty. if its a discount ticket of any type, there might be a fee for date changes. i had a cheap NW ticket a couple of years ago, which was great but i needed to change it, and the fee was $100 per change. another time there was no change fee.

and the woman who said the chinese might not let you thru, if she meant thru immigration in china, they wont be checking for any return air ticket here. i think i posted that above as well. dont worry, once you're thru the checkin desk (the only place you may have potential problems) at the airport you'll have no troubles.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why thank you kind sir. I decided to just get the expedited shipping for the passport. It may be $60, but it's worth it in the long run. I'm getting it through GatewayLAX, so I don't know if they allow changes of dates. But with the expedited shipping, I'll have time to figure out the visa.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've flown in to China dozens of times on a one-way ticket. However, I've always had a valid work permit for China at the time. Perhaps that makes a difference.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well did they check that? Because mine is merely going to be a visitor's visa.
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