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		| moemanco 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: MA Linguistics - Research or Coursework?  :?: |   |  
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				| Hello all, hope all is going well. Needed some advice and I thought where better to turn then to you fine people of this world wide web with
 your wealth of experience and all.
 
 So my three years in Japan are coming to a close due to the birth of my
 first baby boy and it's time to get it together.
 
 After I finished my Business degree in Australia, where I was born and
 raised, I came to Japan for a working holiday and here I am two and a
 half years later thinking I've enjoyed this job so much that I think I
 want to continue with it. I speak,not read or write, native Arabic and
 I'm fully native in English of course. I was thinking of starting an MA
 in Linguistics in the hope of it allowing me the opportunity to work
 anywhere around the world at any in teaching English. I was even
 thinking of this MA in Linguistics rather then an MA in TESOL because I
 figure it would help me if and when I improve my Arabic to a level where
 I can teach it or translate.
 
 Does my track of thought appear to be sound thinking to you all out
 there? Just need to know I'm not setting unrealistic goals.
 
 So with this in mind I'm looking around and I realise I'm going to have
 to choose between a coursework based MA or a research MA. Now I'd love
 to get a Scholarship so I think I might have to do a research based MA
 but I'm loosing hope of getting such a scholarship mainly because I
 don't think I can work out how to go about it, so any information on
 that would be really handy too.
 
 Finally here are the two courses I'm thinking about.
 
 Master of Applied Linguistics by research
 http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/ling/postgrad/ma.html
 
 Master of Applied Linguistics by Coursework
 http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/lcl/postgraduate_coursework/masters-appling.html
 
 I just can't work out which one is going to be more beneficial for me in
 the long run. I also don't have the first clue as to how or what I'd do
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 research for a MA of Linguistics as this is kind of a new field for me.
 My B.B was in E-Commerce and Transport Logistics.
 
 I hope I've provided enough info for you to be able to enlighten me with
 your wisdom oh wise one of the web.
 
 Moe
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		| abufletcher 
 
 
 Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:34 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| First of all, an MA in Linguistics combined with fluent (written and spoken) English and Arabic (and Japanese?) sounds like a powerful combination.  It's definitely a worthy goal. 
 I don't really understand the difference between a research MA and a coursework MA when they are alternates offered by the same university.  Is the coursework done "on campus" i.e. while attending actual classes or done as written "modules" over the internet.  If the former, the coursework MA sounds stronger.  If the latter, I think I'd go with the research degree.
 
 I think it's going to be hard to "do it all" and study both TESOL methodology, linguistics, and Arabic language (to the level required to do or teach translation).  This sounds more like two or three MA's.
 
 Mabruk, BTW, on the birth of your child!  Now the countdown begins until you have to figure out how to arrange an English-language education for her while still teaching EFL overseas!
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		| abufletcher 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Having now skimmed over the website you provided, it sounds like the research MA with dissertation might be considered the more elite of the two, at least in OZ.  The "coursework" MA looks like a typical "distance" degree. 
 Personally, I think the coursework MA might expose you to a far wider range of information than doing specialized research.
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		| scot47 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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		| abufletcher 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | scot47 wrote: |  
	  | It does not matter which one you choose. |  
 Maybe not in terms of finding employment, but I think the coursework degree might be much better general training for someone with no formal background in language teaching or linguistics.
 
 From what I've read on the UAE forum both might be considered suspect in terms of landing one of the better university jobs because of recent UAE ministry policies towards so-called distance degrees.  There seems to be a preference for the traditional style of MA where the student does 2 years of on campus coursework followed by comprehensive exams and/or a thesis.  Though to be honest the only thing the ministry seems to care about is the amount of time spent "in residence."
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		| jonks 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Coursework/Research |   |  
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				| I've been reading posts on the middle east board and the Saudi board for a while now and I am astonished to see so much discrimination against A.) course work degrees, and B.) distance degrees! 
 I have rarely heard anyone backing up their reasons for prejudice on the matter and as I have almost fully completed an MATESOL via distance learning myself, I have good reason to believe the exact opposite.
 
 One of my lecturers from Victoria University in Wellington (which has a very respected Linguistics and applied Linguistics departments), once remarked to me that he thought that the work (which is exactly the same for on campus students - almost) produced by distance students was almost always superior to the work produced by the campus students. He commented that "it isn't how you learn - but what's in the head that matters".
 
 I mean, let's face it. The readings etc that one does are the same. The assignments etc are usually the same, and potentially, if you are not a very extraverted character, you can get more out of learning via written discussion than in a spoken classroom!
 
 The only disadvantages that I can think of are as follows:
 
 1) no access to library
 
 2) can be potentially problematic if you are technologically challenged
 
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 1) the wealth of online information counters this (especially if you have access to online journals as most universities offer
 
 2) it's easy to learn how to navigate an internet site
 
 I would like to hear comments from any of you who are predisposed to "distancism" (my newly coined term) which are backed up with valid reasons.
 
 I am not advocating that unaccredited schools (of which there are certainly plenty offering fast online degrees) are equal in educational bearing to the traditional Ivory Tower, but if you are going to discriminate about either course work degrees or distance earnt degrees, at least put your money where your mouth is and back it up with some good reasons.
 
 Afterall, with current trends in TESOL vearing towards CALL and online learning activities, and the opportunities that these provide, I am astounded that so many of you are 'stuck in the mud' so to speak over your OWN education...
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Coursework/Research |   |  
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	  | jonks wrote: |  
	  | I've been reading posts on the middle east board and the Saudi board for a while now and I am astonished to see so much discrimination against A.) course work degrees, and B.) distance degrees! |  Not sure what board you have been reading, but the only discussion about pros and cons tends to break along nationality lines.  US MAs tend to be mostly course work while British and Australian (?) tend to be more research oriented.
 
 The vast majority of people on both sides on this board say that it doesn't much matter either way... cause it doesn't... certainly not with the employers.  You must be easily astonished...
 
 Distance degrees are still presenting some problems with some employers.  Eventually they will get used to them...
 
 VS
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