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Americans abroad in current political climate
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Cdaniels



Joined: 21 Mar 2005
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Location: Dunwich, Massachusetts

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:55 am    Post subject: Japan or just Okinawa? Reply with quote

Chasgul wrote:
IIRC The Japanese are unlikely to forget certain incidents involving US marines.

I beleive these incidents all occurred in Okinawa, where there has been over 14,000 US Marines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa Okinawa was a seperate country before the 17th century. I would not be surprised if attitudes towards Americans was very different in different parts of Japan.
OP, If you're so afraid, teaching maybe isn't for you. Do some independent travelling, maybe take some vacations abroad. Unless you're easily offended or very sensitive, you will find in most places, you're fear of anti-Americanism is out of proportion to reality.
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Gajeman



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Location: Taguatinga Norte, Brasil

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in Brazil I have encountered a strange sort of contrast in the culture. The people who seem to give me the hardest time about being from the U.S. are usually the ones with hip, new American clothing or some trendy catch-phrase written in English on their tee shirts. "Bush is a Nazi" is spraypainted on the sides of buildings but the caf� in the hospital is called "Speedy Lunch". For the most part I have no problems here and the majority of people are simply curious about my country. I also speak Portuguese and don't walk around promoting the fact that I'm a foreigner, so I'm sure that helps. Every once in a while though I'll be confronted by a young Brazilian male with a Che Guavara shirt who wants to tell me how evil America is and that George W. is the root of all problems in the world, so I sit patiently and listen and pretty soon this kid is telling me that when Winston Churchill was president and stopped the vietnam war... or that the Amazon territory is on the map of the United States listed as American soil I have to laugh so hard that none of it bothers me any more. Then I get scared that maybe a lot more people are that ignorant and that I should be very, very careful.
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Ignorance is bliss... Reply with quote

Gajeman wrote:
Then I get scared that maybe a lot more people are that ignorant and that I should be very, very careful.

What are you afraid of, exactly? Its one thing to be afraid of violence, its another to be disliked or misunderstood, or talked about behind your back.
There's a coffee shop near my hometown in the US where the staff is mostly Brazilian. A while back, late at night, a gringoe kid was showing off to the girls working there that he knew a little Portugese, he then asked for cabello. I beleive that's street slang for herion, and I think he meant it as an insult, (as if all Brazilians deal drugs) He was laughing as he left, anyways. Question The two Brazilian girls didn't know what he was talking about. One dismissed him as loco. So that was a bit of racist nastiness I witnessed at home, but I don't think Brazilians have to fear Americans because of American ignorance!
I'm a whole lot more worried about how fellow Americans are going to treat me in America than any foreigners in any foreign countries. Rolling Eyes


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Gajeman



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid of people filled with hate for something they know nothing about. I'm not afraid of Brazil or Brazilians in general, just the look of desperate rage in a young man's eyes for what I supposedly represent when he obviously knows little to nothing about the U.S. and has some idealistic vision of a "Blood and Fire Revolution" that will somehow make things better for him in Brazil. I am afraid of that ignorance combined with angered passion. That's a bad combination in my book. I have had many interesting conversations with people who have a negative opinion of the U.S. but they were calm discussions between two rational human beings exchanging ideas and opinions. The majority of my friends here realize that the first step is to better things in Brazil and that pointing fingers isn't going to help anyone. The ol' "Think globally-Act locally" thing. Ironic that I took so much s**t back in Boston defending my Brazilian friends from ignorant Americans and now I have to defend myself from ignorant Brazilians. I guess it's everywhere. But fortunately those instances aren't very common and I'd much rather confront these issues than go hide away somewhere and pretend it's a perfect world.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No irony at all, unless you still think in terms of Americans and Brasilians.

In Boston you were defending people from ignorance, not from Americans. Perhaps the people you speak to in Brasil are not ignorant, but passionate in their feelings about US foreign policy. Rage is an understandable reaction when your country's chances of peaceful development are obstructed by outside forces. Understandable; but not necessarily productive.
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