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Corey

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 112 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject: Interesting stat from Harper's |
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June-Aug 2003...
Number of terrorism indictments brought since September 2001 by the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey : 62
Number of them brought against Middle Eastern students for paying others to take their English proficiency tests : 60
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dduck

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 422 Location: In the middle
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, I think you might be on to something there! Have you contacted the DOD, FBI, and CIA yet?
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Corey

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 112 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: |
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While I can appreciate your irony, I was posting more in line with the "does this qualify as terrorism" type of thought.
Take care,
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dduck

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 422 Location: In the middle
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I spent some time thinking about your original comment, and it still seems to me that it's racist. That is, by trying to make a link between a particular racial group of students, who cheated in exams, and terrorism. Perhaps, if you demonstrated unusual behaviour on the part of middle-eastern students (that is, do more middle-eastern students cheat than other foreign students?) there might be some justification for you remark.
I suppose you didn't intend any racist remark, but words iz words.
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Number of terrorism indictments brought since September 2001 by the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey : 62
Number of them brought against Middle Eastern students for paying others to take their English proficiency tests : 60 |
I didn't think the statement above was intended to be racist, but rather an indication that the definition of 'terror' or 'terrorist' needs to be redefined or at least properly defined (shouldn't pain or injury or violence or destruction be involved in the act?). The fact that the US Attorney's office considers cheating to be an act of terrorism is absurd. Since someone is obviously accepting payments from these (ahem) terrorists to write these exams, then we have approximately 60 English speaking Americans aiding and abetting the act of, hmmmm, terrorism.
Aaaaagh! That means that the actual number of incidents of terror has doubled since my last paragraph!
Obviously the US Attorney's Office has never been near a private Turkish primary school or all of my students would have been denounced as terrorists-- my kids cheated constantly and no one seemed to mind (except me, and my protests fell on deaf ears). [/quote] |
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SweetOne
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 109
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Corey's point wasn't intended to be racist, but to merely point out the unbelievable stupidity of the current regime and the insane posse' (a/k/a Homeland Security.) |
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Corey

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 112 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks sweet and Yaz.... good to be understood. I though you were sharper than that duck. I put the stat there to be held up to ridicule, not because I believe it. Maybe I shoud have enclosed it with <irony> tags. |
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dduck

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 422 Location: In the middle
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. I'm no mind reader.
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