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sidjameson
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 629 Location: osaka
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: Do university employees recieve national health insurance? |
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I started my new job this week. I work at a national university. In an almost comical way I have had barely any contact with anybody at my university. The previous teacher kindly gave me details about the classes. I signed a contract on my first day at work. I was given a key to my room. Really that's about it.
I kid you not, first day at work and during my afternoon class my back just went. Felt like all the muscles in the lower back just disappeared for a second. Real pain. I walked to the station like an old man and when it was time to get up out the seat and get off the train. I was like an old man's father. It wasn't funny at all.
Yesterday my back revovered somwhat, but today......same thing. Anyway, no one comes on here to hear people whinging about their health problems. I just hope that PaulH or somebody can let me know if I am now automatically on some kind of health care system?
The timeing of the thing though is just downright suspicious. I mean, FIRST day on the job. I have had a bad back on and off for years but always liveable. This isn't. BUT do you think that I shouldn't mention that it is a long held condition? Honestly it was getting worse last semester before the holiday break. It's the standing up I am sure. But in the severity it really is a new condition to me.
I actually fear going to work next week. I also fear needing an operation just as I have started such a great new job. How understanding do you think the people in higher powers would be?
I rambling post I know......feeling a bit sorry for myself I guess. |
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I understand what you're going through. Exactly. About 10 years ago getting off a bus in Helsinki with a backpack and 25lbs of camera gear my back just locked up. Standing there right in the middle of the bus arrival area all I could do is wave over a taxi and ask him to literally place me horizontally into the back of his cab. From there he took me to the nearest hotel. I had no insurance, not muc money, couldn't communicate with much of anyone, and it looked like this might very realistically be a long term thing. I definitely wasn't going to be able to get back onto an airplane and go home! Suddenly Finland seemed a LONG LONG way away from anywhere I wanted to be!
Luckily things didn't look quite so grim three days after a visit from the doctor the hotel called. He gave me a shot of muscle relaxant and by the next day I could shuffle around. Three days later I was walking normally but cautiously.
OK. back to YOUR back! Yeah, the timing stinks. Given that you just signed your contract, it's doubtful the finance department would have gotten around to working on your medical insurance paperwork. The good news is that from what we've heard about this new job, the university you're working for has some sense of honor towards employees and there's a good chance that they will get your paperwork done right away.
I'm afraid I don't have any specific info for you, other to say "buck up, it probably isn't as bleak as things look right now." |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Do university employees recieve national health insuranc |
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sidjameson wrote: |
I started my new job this week. I work at a national university. In an almost comical way I have had barely any contact with anybody at my university. The previous teacher kindly gave me details about the classes. I signed a contract on my first day at work. I was given a key to my room. Really that's about it.
I kid you not, first day at work and during my afternoon class my back just went. Felt like all the muscles in the lower back just disappeared for a second. Real pain. I walked to the station like an old man and when it was time to get up out the seat and get off the train. I was like an old man's father. It wasn't funny at all.
Yesterday my back revovered somwhat, but today......same thing. Anyway, no one comes on here to hear people whinging about their health problems. I just hope that PaulH or somebody can let me know if I am now automatically on some kind of health care system?
The timeing of the thing though is just downright suspicious. I mean, FIRST day on the job. I have had a bad back on and off for years but always liveable. This isn't. BUT do you think that I shouldn't mention that it is a long held condition? Honestly it was getting worse last semester before the holiday break. It's the standing up I am sure. But in the severity it really is a new condition to me.
I actually fear going to work next week. I also fear needing an operation just as I have started such a great new job. How understanding do you think the people in higher powers would be?
I rambling post I know......feeling a bit sorry for myself I guess. |
I might also add that if it happened at work its a work-related injury and you may be liable for accident compensation. This is separate from health insurance. Its like having an accident at work or being hit by a taxi on the way to work. Talk to your school about any accident insurance.
The office probably has not got around to putting you on the health insurance but they may be able to backdate the forms so you can get insurance.
Maybe you just need some physiotherapy or something. |
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's hard to say whether a back "flairing up again" while at work would be treated as a "work related" injury unless you could show that it was some specific aspect of the job that caused the problem. Would just having to stand up in class be considered sufficient? Now if you were carry stacks of textbooks to class, that might sound like a better argument.
Personally, I think this sort of thing has gone WAY overboard in the US and I wouldn't care to see Japan go down that legalistic path further than it already has. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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sid,
What was your health insurance situation before you started the university job? Sounds like you have not signed anything to get health insurance started through whatever plan the university offers, so I suspect that your previous plan is still in effect.
Best of luck to you. If you want to drop a line and chat about getting started in a national university, feel free. I just started 2 weeks ago, too. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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EDIT
Double posting. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 811 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Do university employees recieve national health insuranc |
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sidjameson wrote: |
I started my new job this week. I work at a national university. In an almost comical way I have had barely any contact with anybody at my university. The previous teacher kindly gave me details about the classes. I signed a contract on my first day at work. I was given a key to my room. Really that's about it. |
Hi Sidjameson,
Welcome to Japan's national university system! I worked at one for 6 years--it was, shall we say, a singular experience....
If you are a full-time faculty, you are automatically enrolled into their health insurance (and should receive your pink card soon). Even right now, you should be able to go to the university's administrative office, explain your situation, and ask them to give you your insurance card number--i.e., in lieu of the actual card, which may not be printed yet. (PM me if you want suggestions about how to make this request in Japanese....)
Should you do this is a completely different matter. Not knowing your colleagues, it is difficult to say. However, any faculty missing significant numbers of classes at the beginning of his/her first semester will be treated poorly; foreigners, as you may expect, are no exception (and indeed are often treated worse). E.g., I've known foreigners to be not renewed over this kind of thing, and they tried (and failed) to force one acquaintance out of her contract. Still, if you're crippled, you have to do it. Try to miss as few classes as possible--e.g., instead of cancelling, show a movie next week in all classes, asking a foreign colleague to take over and just turn on the video for you. (Unless a student complains, your Japanese colleagues will probably not even notice...which says a lot, actually. )
Whatever you do, do not tell them you've had chronic back problems up to now. You used to (at least for the Japanese-equivalent positions--I'm not sure about Gaikokujin Kyoushi-type positions) have to take an extensive medical exam, during which you were asked to identify any chronic illnesses which might prevent your working. I haven't seen your paper work, but I wouldn't want to give them any excuse to try to void your contract.
Good luck! |
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sidjameson
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 629 Location: osaka
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the words of encouragment. Actually as sad as this sounds it actually helped me to know that there were people out "there" who cared enough to post. See my new post on social isloation.
Anywa, Glenski, I didn't have any insurance before. Yes, I know.........actually I did, but I let it expire a year or so ago.
Yes, I really want to avoid the not turning up scenario. For all my other faults, I am a professional in the classroom.
Actually I did slip on a green mat that was hanging over a step earlier in the morning. I slipped down the step which caused more than a whince. It did hurt, but I wouldn't like to say that it was the cause and besides I have been treated so well by this university and the attached juniour high school for 5 years. Creating an uncomfortable situation would be the last thing on my mind.
Just researching and of course worse case scenarios running through my head. I did read what appears to assimilate to my condition. Soething about nerves touching between the disks. May mean an operation...... Apart from the horror that involves............can anyone tell me how much would be covered by the insurance?
Well.....I will see how things bear over the weekend.....hopefully I will be up n running by Monday or at least able to get up. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: |
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sid,
You should be covered for 70-80% of the medical bills. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 811 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
sid,
You should be covered for 70-80% of the medical bills. |
Glenski's right. Also, you'll be receiving a visit in mid-May from someone trying to sell you supplementary insurance. If you have the money, and especially if you have a family (or are planning on starting one), I'd advise buying one of these policies as well. You'll be covered for a lot more things, and you can (or at least used to be able to) "double-dip." E.g., we actually made money on the birth of our last two kids...about $700 US each....
Of course, we've been paying ever since....  |
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