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PAULH
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Jazz
what you probably need is a dictionary of Applied Linguistics and TESOL to help you with these terms
There will be a lot more where they came from and some reference books are listed on Google. |
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angrysoba
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| Ayeeeeeeeeee....just found another teaching term that might be on the test: Elicit. Can anyone tell me what this term means? |
In ESL/EFL, elicit will mean drawing out language that the student already has instead of lecturing them. How you elicit will be highly dependent on what you want them to learn.
Sometimes simply using pictures and asking "What is this?" may result in eliciting the correct response from one student in the class.
In other cases the "target language" might be describing objects, in which you may give pairs of students an unusual object (which they don't know the name of) and have them say something about it.
Or you could have them look at a passport with stamps in it to elicit the form "...have been to..." etc... |
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fluffyhamster
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There was an example of eliciting on englishdroid.com (perhaps the 'CELTA without tears' page). As I recall, it went something like this:
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| Eliciting - dropping increasingly unsubtle hints until even the thickest of the students can supply the answer e.g. "OK class, what's the term I'm looking for? Present c...it begins with 'c'. C...o...n...no, not 'condom', Juan, yes, very funny, but you can all stop laughing now. I was looking for 'Present continuous'. Now, who can me when it's used?" etc |
Unfortunately, the site no longer seems to be available. 
Oh, I see others were posting slightly more helpful stuff whilst I was enjoying myself. On a slightly more pratical note, do a search for 'tkt' here on Dave's and download its glossary pdf for a start.
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| angrysoba wrote: |
| Jazz1975 wrote: |
| Ayeeeeeeeeee....just found another teaching term that might be on the test: Elicit. Can anyone tell me what this term means? |
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Just make sure you dont solicit students instead of elicit. Could make things very awkward for you at your job.  |
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fluffyhamster
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Heh, I was just thinking of 'solicit' myself!  |
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fluffyhamster
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Illicit eliciting=soliciting?  |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| Facilitating elicitation of elucidating clarification, maybe? |
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angrysoba
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| In summation, it is the formation and collation of salient information and its relation to its denotation, collocations and connotations. |
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PAULH
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| angrysoba wrote: |
| In summation, it is the formation and collation of salient information and its relation to its denotation, collocations and connotations. |
Jazz is going to have a field day with this stuff. Poor lady. I can see here tearing her hair out now. |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| PAULH wrote: |
| angrysoba wrote: |
| In summation, it is the formation and collation of salient information and its relation to its denotation, collocations and connotations. |
Jazz is going to have a field day with this stuff. Poor lady. I can see here tearing her hair out now. |
Not quite, Paul. I have an idea of what is on the test and how I'm going to study for it. I know you'd like to see me tear my hair out, but it's not gonna happen  .
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Jazz1975
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| PAULH wrote: |
| Just make sure you dont solicit students instead of elicit. Could make things very awkward for you at your job. |
I have NO INTENTION of soliciting my students. VERY UNPROFESSIONAL. |
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fluffyhamster
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Jazz1975
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Guess that's too late for me  . I already took the test on Thursday and it's anyone's guess what happens. |
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abufletcher
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| Guess that's too late for me . I already took the test on Thursday and it's anyone's guess what happens. |
So tell us about it. I must say, I'm very curious about the nature of any test for which one cannot apparently study! |
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Jazz1975
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| So tell us about it. I must say, I'm very curious about the nature of any test for which one cannot apparently study! |
I actually talk about it in another thread, but I will say it again. It was the HARDEST test I've ever written in my life. There have been threads on here that talk about the ECC Grammar Test. They had some sentences where words were underlined and u had to choose which word u had to re-write. And these were not just simple sentences. They were very detailed and you really had to think about it. The picking out the grammar terms was even harder. And I studied for it. The thing is, this was a test that you couldn't really study for, but I sure as hell tried. The reason why I said that you couldn't really study for it is because you can only guess what to study for and go by what other people on here say. You don't really know everything else that'll be on there. Didn't help that the grammar test was at the end of the day. However, I did well on the education terms thanks to all of you. And I also aced the spelling part of it (or was very close to it) . Well, we'll just have to wait and see. May 5th is the day our group finds out if we got in. |
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