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mattalbie
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 Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: Criminal record check |
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| I'm thinking of teaching in either Vietnam, Thailand or Taiwan, is it essential to have a criminal record check, if so how do I go about this? I volunteer in hospitals in the UK and the hospital admin took care of my CRB checks which took 6 weeks. I'm a little concerned about the time this takes because I'm keen to get into Asia asap and don't want to have any more delays. Which countries do not require criminal record checks? |
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tedkarma
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I've not had to provide one in Thailand, Korea, and Taiwan. Did have to provide one for Saudi Arabia.
But . . . the one I got took only about 20 minutes to get - so perhaps it is not as much an obstacle as you might think? |
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dmb
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| What did you do? (Sorry, I'm naturally inquisitive) |
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mattalbie
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| Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Hi Tedkarma,
Can you tell me about the process? Who does it etc.? |
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Cdaniels
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| Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: In the US, criminal record checks |
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Where I am in Massachusetts, anyone who works or volunteers for schools, or works with children, undergoes a criminal record check. Everything is handled by the government and employer. The employee can only sign (or not sign) permission for the employer to do the process. If the person could effect the system otherwise (even innocently, just to speed the process) that would tend to defeat the purpose of the check.
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acwilliams
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From the (UK) Criminal Records Bureau website: http://www.disclosure.gov.uk?Default.aspx?page=381
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The current legislation does not allow the self-employed or individuals to apply for a CRB check on themselves. In addition, parents who employ a nanny/au pair/babysitter directly cannot apply for a CRB check; however, if an agency supplies the nanny/au pair/babysitter, the agency is entitled to carry out a CRB check.
If you are going to work as a paid employee or as a volunteer for an organisation and your work will bring you into contact with children or vulnerable adults, you may be asked to apply for a CRB check. For example, if you are to work as a teacher, care worker, scout & guide leader, registered childminder, sports coach, youth club worker, foster carer or adoptive parent.
A CRB check may also be required for a range of other types of job or licences. If you have been asked to apply for a CRB check you will need to speak to the person who asked you to apply as they will be able to provide you with the application form.
If you have been asked to apply for a CRB check, the CRB has developed a guide that may answer some of your questions, called Applicant�s Guide to the CRB's Disclosure Service (DIP 017) available in the Resource Library.
If you are worried or concerned about what may be, or has been, revealed by your CRB check you can talk in confidence to the Nacro helpline. Nacro is a crime reduction charity that works with ex-offenders and is able to answer specific queries on good practice in relation to employment and offenders. (T: 020 7840 6464 or Email [email protected] ). |
The Resource Library mentioned above is on the same website, at http://www.disclosure.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=288
Incidentally, there are two kinds of CRB check: Standard and Enhanced. Tedkarma (if he's British) might have got the standard one, thus the short application time. The OP's hospital volunteer scheme may well have applied for an Enhanced Disclosure, since he was going to work with children and/or vulnerable adults. |
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mattalbie
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Here in the UK the hospitals did carry out enhanced crb checks before I could volunteer. However my question really relates to, how can a check be done when I am in Asia, who does it, what's the process, how long etc etc? |
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tedkarma
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| mattalbie wrote: |
Hi Tedkarma,
Can you tell me about the process? Who does it etc.? |
For the Saudi check - I just had to go to the local police department - and they checked in the computer that I was not a wanted person - and gave me a paper that said so.
The whole thing took 20 minutes. Half of the time was spent figuring out why I had such an unusual (for them) request - and how to satisify it.
Some countries don't ask for a criminal check as they will fingerprint you - Korea does - or at least did the first time I went there. During my second stint there they just checked to see if my prints were in the computer - and they still were almost ten years later! |
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acwilliams
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I didn't have to have any kind of criminal record check to get working papers in Thailand (or China or Indonesia). Perhaps a message on the Vietnam or Taiwan boards on this site would get more helpful replies about requirements in those two countries.
I guess that even if a criminal record check isn't an immigration/work visa requirement, some individual employers might want to run a CRB check on you. International schools, for example. Then the process would be similar to the one you went through with your voluntary work. |
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mattalbie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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| Thanks all. |
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Gawain
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When I taught EFL in Taiwan 1997-2000 part of the work visa asked for my USA police record. I cannot remember if the Taiwanese government or my school required it.
In USA, you just call your local police non-emergency number and ask for a police record letter for working overseas. Standard procedure. They may charge a few dollars. Washington State Patrol does it online using credit card and takes only one minute to print out online letter declaring "This police record check concludes this citizen has no criminal conviction record." In USA, might as well get this letter before going overseas.
But if you DO have criminal record, I wonder which nations still let you get a work visa?  |
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