Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: Working in Taiwan, bringing wife & 5 year old. Any comm
Hoping to find employment on the island of Taiwan. Just wondering does anyone have experience or knowledge regarding bringing family with them. Any advice would be apprieciated.
I am not sure that coming here with children is a good idea unless you are coming as an expat on an expat package. If you are seeking employment locally at a buxiban or some such private English school then I am not sure that you will earn the money nor have the appropriate hours to really look after your children. I know that some people do it, but I suspect that they find it quite difficult to do.
I think if you want to travel with your family as a teacher then you should probably get an education degree and seek employment within the international school system. The hours are probably more suited to having kids, the money is definitely suited to a family, and the job security and stability will also be welcomed by someone with mouths to feed at home.
Miyazaki wrote:
No, you don't need a degree to teach EFL in Taiwan. There are many people teaching legally with only a diploma.
As we have established on another thread just recently, Miyazaki's claim above is just plain wrong.
In order to qualify for legal employment as a foreign teacher in Taiwan you need either:
a) a bachelors degree or above; or
b) a diploma plus TESOL certification
There are two problems with b) however.
1. Nobody knows and therefore nobody is able to tell you what kinds of diplomas from what kinds of institutions are accepted by the government. Equally unclear is which TESOL certifications are accepted by the government as there are so many companies out there offering these and not all of them are accepted by the government.
2. Not all schools either know, or will accept, that a teacher with anything less than a full university degree can qualify for legal employment here and therefore you may find yourself passed over for other applicants who have a degree.
Obviously there is very little that you can do about this, short of getting yourself a degree. I would advise that you contact the Council of Labor Affairs (CLA) in Taiwan directly as they are the ones who make the decision and they may be able to verify whether your documentation is acceptable or not. Do not contact your local TECO office in the country in which you live as you will likely get a lot of misinformation from them.
People with a wife at home looking after the child can work at pretty much any time, I should have thought. The hours in Taiwan are surely not usually longer than a regular job back home.
The OP has one child, like me, and Taiwan salaries seem reasonably high. You can't live like a king, no doubt, but is there really a problem?
Oh I see, linvestor asked on another thread. Well, could have been better to answer on the other thread then.........
By the way, there's no point getting too worked up about hearing the same old questions again and again, is there? It's much nicer to have someone answer you than trail through 1000 threads, which round here will involve seeing the face of Che Guevara 500 times. People are bound to have a go at getting some questions answered personally.
As we have established on another thread just recently, Miyazaki's claim above is just plain wrong.
In order to qualify for legal employment as a foreign teacher in Taiwan you need either:
a) a bachelors degree or above; or
b) a diploma plus TESOL certification.
Calrk w griswald is wrong. Do not pay any attention to this as there are thousands of people teaching EFL legally in Taiwan with only a diploma.
I had af friend who was provided with an ARC and work permit with only a 2 year diploma in hotel management - and that was as recently as last week.
Yes, you can obtain legal EFL employment in Taiwan with only a 2 year diploma.
Oh man, here we go again.
I'll repeat what I said: Many things are possible here. Not all are completely within the rules. Miya, I'm sure you have known of people who have gotten work permits with less than what is required by the government here. These are exceptions, though, not the norm. I think someone is pulling the wool over the eyes of the authorities, either the employer, employeee or both. It might be that the employer is asserting that their employee has a four year degree. It might be that the authorities don't know any better. Somebody pulled some strings. Many things are possible. However, it is clear that the rule is for work permits for foreign English teachers:
1) BA degree from a recognized university in an English speaking country
or
2) two year diploma (same conditions as above) and tesl cert
If you don't possess either of the two, but may have similar, you need to check whether or not you will be able to obtain a work permit legally. If you possess credential set 2), you will also need to check carefully whether or not it will qualify. Also be aware that the best jobs are reserved for BA holders and above.
Clark and I have disagreed over things in the past, but he is dead right where these regulations are concerned. Heed the knowledgeable advice. I also don't know why Miya carries on the way he does. If one has a two year diploma, all they'd need to do to become lgit is complete a tesl cert. It's not a big deal.
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