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Howardtheduck



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Asian women Reply with quote

The basic attraction of Asian women seems to me simple. Western women generally hate and despise men. Asian women seem actually to like them, to feel affection for them. For a Western man to experience this, after a lifetime of abuse, is a revelation. Having experienced the love of another human being, it is very hard to go back to living without it.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Asian women Reply with quote

Howardtheduck wrote:
The basic attraction of Asian women seems to me simple. Western women generally hate and despise men. Asian women seem actually to like them, to feel affection for them. For a Western man to experience this, after a lifetime of abuse, is a revelation. Having experienced the love of another human being, it is very hard to go back to living without it.


You're coming in loud and clear, Howard. Those who use honey catch more flies than those who use vinegar. There is a tremendous amount of hostility toward men exhibited by western women. Regardless of whether or not they perceive men as their natural enemies, or oppressors, or whatever, they still can't expect to catch flies --or "sperm donors", as we are known these days-- with vinegar.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Asian women Reply with quote

Bindair Dundat wrote:
There is a tremendous amount of hostility toward men exhibited by western women.


Oops, that should have been "womyn". My apologies.
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Rin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so Western women are fat, lazy, bad mothers, disloyal to their families and we hate men...I wouldn't want to date me, that's for sure.

My boss will be happy when I apologize to him and tell him as it turns out I am a stupid women who is only good for bearing children, like he told me yesterday.

Or the guy who said I'm not capable of grasping the importance of the business he was in and that he didn't want to work with a women.

Not to mention, go back to Korea and accept all that money I was always being offered for my services, cause apprantely as a Western women I don't deserve any better treatment.

Do I have it right guys? I don't want to give you too much vinegar or sour grapes here.

What must that love and respect thing be like. At least you can get it from Asian women. Western women can't even get it from Western men.
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Rin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a sec...Who hates who again?
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rin wrote:
Do I have it right guys?


Nope. You're missing it by a mile.

The point is to reduce the hostility, not to exacerbate it.
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Rin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? So insulting Western women is a way to reduce hostility is it?
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rin wrote:
Really? So insulting Western women is a way to reduce hostility is it?


Accepting the fact that your behavior is offensive and not blaming people for your discomfort when they let you know that your behavior is offensive is a way to reduce hostility.
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Rin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bindair Dundat wrote:
Rin wrote:
Really? So insulting Western women is a way to reduce hostility is it?


Accepting the fact that your behavior is offensive and not blaming people for your discomfort when they let you know that your behavior is offensive is a way to reduce hostility.


Your behaviour is offensive
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rin wrote:
Bindair Dundat wrote:
Rin wrote:
Really? So insulting Western women is a way to reduce hostility is it?


Accepting the fact that your behavior is offensive and not blaming people for your discomfort when they let you know that your behavior is offensive is a way to reduce hostility.


Your behaviour is offensive


I accept that.

With a smile. Smile
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Rin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you,

But I refuse to accept that all Western women fit this sterotype of fat. lazy, bad mothers, etc. etc.

Nor do I accept that Asian women are the greatest thing since sliced bread, most of the ones that I've met don't have the brains God gave a chicken. And most of the Western men I've met who only date or marry them do so cause they can't handle a real women, they need a little girl.

I have met people who prove these sterotypes and people who are exceptions to them. And unlike you boys, I do not discount all Western men because of the few I've met that fit these sterotypes, nor do I discount the Asian women.

Unlike you boys, I prefer to judge people on an individual basis.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Asian women Reply with quote

Howardtheduck wrote:
The basic attraction of Asian women seems to me simple. Western women generally hate and despise men.

Really? Is it 'men' or just a certain type of men or perhaps just you? Have you ever spent a few moments wondering why? Have you ever thought of treating a woman as something other than a sex object or a servant? Probably not...

Howardtheduck wrote:
Asian women seem actually to like them, to feel affection for them. For a Western man to experience this, after a lifetime of abuse, is a revelation. Having experienced the love of another human being, it is very hard to go back to living without it.

This is often more of a reflection of the even worse sexism of their own culture - ingrained mistreatment by their own men - and usually an even stronger desire to escape from poverty. How many of them trade 'affection' for your being a cash cow for them? Do they actually 'like' these men? Or are they just using them? Trading what they have for what you want? How many of the men are too blind to see it?

Too many men are too insecure and/or selfish to deal with a relationship of equals. Too bad... Fortunately more Western women now have the ability to support themselves and they no longer need to 'prostitute' themselves into a marginal marriage in order to have a home and a few luxuries.

I would never criticize the Asian women though. They are doing what they need to do to get ahead. The never-ending battle of the sexes goes on. The more selfish and immature the person - of either sex - of whatever nationality - the louder the complaints and the more sweeping the generalizations.

VS
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Rin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Asian women Reply with quote

[I would never criticize the Asian women though. They are doing what they need to do to get ahead. The never-ending battle of the sexes goes on. The more selfish and immature the person - of either sex - of whatever nationality - the louder the complaints and the more sweeping the generalizations.

VS[/quote]

Sorry to sound immature, but having been called fat, lazy, a bad mother and a man hater I have a tendency to get angry. Also after having spent several nights comforting my Korean friend after her Western husband beat the crap our her and constantly having her go back to him because she doesn't believe she can do any better than her Western husband, I generally tend to disrespect both groups. They are simply perpeutuating a bad habit. One that many Western women are guilty of perpeutuating as well.
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