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HunanForeignGuy · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC

Dear New Jersey dude:

United States passports are technically not valid for travel to North Korea unless you have received a special waiver from the State Department and mess of other places.

Next, it is all but impossible for you to be issued a North Korean tourist visa. You need to be part of an officially invited workers' delegation, peace group, international caritative organization, etc. This is not Cuba and this is one place where the door is firmly shut.

The fringe Protestant groups in the United States such as the Seventh Day Adventists send peace and food groups, there, however.

And just remember -- you are looking into the looking glass upside down once you enter. Truly exercise caution.

As for being black in China, most of the previous posters, with the exception of Jeff, are right on the mark in my opinion. And regardless of the trashing that Tofuman received from other posters, his very aperpos comments about a new school and financial solvency should NOT be ignored. I have been here four years and unless a non-government school has done the test of time for at least TEN years, I would never, ever, ever, ever even considerate it. Many of them, beautiful buildings and all, are here today, gone tomorrow...with the owner in Switzerland with all of the funds, i.e., construction funds included, teachers' salaries, tuition, etc. Just do a google on this very Board.

This is not the United States here, to be redundant, and please do not come here expecting generous portions of Equal Opportunity, Equal Employment, etc. The race card does not work here except to work in your disfavor. There will be no deference at all. And yes, you will need a very, very thick skin in some places. That's the simple reality of it all.

I taught in one university in Chengdu with an ex-basketball player and University of Toronto graduate. Handsome guy. Highly, highly literate. The students complained to the Dean that they could not understand him...because of his .. African accent ... and he was a CANADIAN who spoke impeccable CBC English. The students complained to the Dean that he had a smell about him..which was outrageous...because the poor guy was like a QC model in terms of clothes and behavior. And then there were all the rumors about his masculine "size" so that there was practically a line of female students at the front door of his apartment all wanting a "test ride". Eventually he left the school, meaning after about two months as he could not handle all of this. And we witnessed all of this and we tried to plead with the students and the Administration but it seemed to fall on deaf ears.

So just be aware, guy, this ain't the Bronx.

tofuman · Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 937

"So what Tofuman says is that all the blacks he has ever met were in jail or getting arrested. And if you are a typical USA black you fall into this criteria. "

Jeff, perhaps you should stick to boffing immature girls. Obviously, if you interpret my remarks as you do, the subtleties of English escape you. Luckily, you are a teacher in China; consequently, competency in your field of supposed expertise is not required.

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

jg · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject:

Links to threads that discussed racism.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=33459&highlight=black+people+racism+china

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=23276&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=black+people+racism+china&start=15

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=21307&highlight=black+people+racism+china

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=20207&highlight=black+people+racism+china

I was in China for a bit over two years, working, backpacking and as a student. I've never been to Dalian, but if you have specific questions about how Chinese received my being a black American, feel free to send me a PM.

Very Happy

cease · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject:

I don't consider myself to be an overly sensitive guy. When I was a kid, I went to a predominantly white school, so I heard my fair share of nonsense. But I am human, so like anyone else, I do have a breaking point..

lollercauster · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 418 Location: Inside-Out NYC

jeffinflorida · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject:

lollercauster · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 418 Location: Inside-Out NYC

I'm not normal and you referenced me in the same sentence as Tofuman? Sad

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

lollercauster · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 418 Location: Inside-Out NYC

Haven't you said that like twice already? Are you...latino?

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

When the white Europeans first visited the Kingdom of Hawaii they were called a name that meant strange people with skin sickness because of their white skin.

lollercauster · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 418 Location: Inside-Out NYC

So you're Albino?

jeffinflorida · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject:

Joe C. · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:59 am Post subject:

Joe C. · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: Re: North Korea