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shenyanggerry
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 619 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the rules have changed. A couple of years ago, my ex wasn't allowed to teach in the French system because she didn't pass the French exam.
I might note, she is fuctionally bilingual. She ran her own company for twenty years and communicated in French as required. Obviously her French is not great since I can understand it.
Other side is, 'Law of Supply and Demand". I took a CALL course at Concordia taught by a BA. They normally hire PhD's. Couldn't find one.
As a matter of fact, one of my best Canadian History courses (my major) was taugt by a MA. He was young, loved the subject and made it come alive. I'm sure he got his doctorate decades ago but Id oubt he ever taught any better undergraduate classes. |
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Dreamer42
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 2 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: Isn't the MA a good thing? |
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I'm new so hello to all! I recently moved to NYC to explore opportunities. One that I'm strongly considering is pursuing a master's in TESOL at Teacher's College. Is the general opinion here that it would be a waste of $50k. My thinking is that a state certification combined with the MA would put me in a 'good' place.
Please offer your views. Thanks. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Isn't the MA a good thing? |
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One that I'm strongly considering is pursuing a master's in TESOL at Teacher's College. Is the general opinion here that it would be a waste of $50k. |
$50,000 US?? It must be one heck of a good program to justify that cost. |
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Dreamer42
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 2 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi! LOL! My sentiments exactly...tuition on the east coast is quite expensive. Teacher's College is $1,000 per credit excluding books and miscellaneous fees. But if I go back to Texas with a Columbia degree, I'll be the Queen's Tea...know what I mean? LOL! |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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If someone is fluent in Spanish AND English, ESL-teaching opportunities are nearly endless here in the States (albeit, the majority of which are in public schools and adult ed centers). |
I think that if you are willing to relocate, someone will just hand you a job teaching ESL in the U.S. My ex-girlfriend got paid to do her student teaching. She started her M.A. in ESL but got a job offer half way through. She was getting paid while she finished her M.A. and certification. In most major cities they offer alternative certification programs. Of course who really wants to work in Dallas, LA, Philadelphia, Memphis, or New Jersey. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Jizzo T. Clown, could you tell me about your experience in finding a job at a university in the United States. After a few years I would like to teach in an IEP porgram. Should I go back to the United States and do an ESL M.A. and see if I can get into the schools IEP program?
I am currently teaching at a Korean University. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 668 Location: performing in a classroom near you!
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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JZer,
Gee, I'm sorry about waiting so long to reply on this one--I've been out of pocket for the past few months...
As I've said before, I got lucky. I was in the right place at the right time and talked to the right people. I came back to the US to do my MA TESOL and luckily, the IEP program at this uni was going through some tough times and desperately needed a teacher with experience (degree or not).
If you plan to work at an IEP, an MA is a requirement for most, but many will hire you on part-time while you earn your MA, and some will hire you on full-time if you prove yourself the first semester (as was my case).
I'd not only check out the MA TESOL programs of many schools, but also the state of their IEPs. The newer ones tend to need teachers the most, FWIW. |
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