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Iesa



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Beware Reply with quote

Be careful if you are communicating with someone with an email address with mines.edu (edit). Mines.edu is a company from colorado, USA. This individual passes himself off as being in Saudi Arabia representing a school.

(MOD: do not give out names on a public board)
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we should know more !
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ntropy



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe (not 100% certain) that you are probably talking about the Petroleum Institute which is operated by a Colorado university and has just such a moniker in their url/email listings.
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MAstudent



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Beware Reply with quote

Iesa wrote:
Be careful if you are communicating with someone with an email address with mines.edu. Mines.edu is a company from colorado, USA. This individual passes himself off as being in Saudi Arabia representing a school.


In what way should we be careful of him? what is he after? i have an interview with him 2mrw afternnon (4:15pm UK time) what should i be looking out for?
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Beware Reply with quote

Iesa wrote:
Be careful if you are communicating with someone with an email address with mines.edu. Mines.edu is a company from colorado, USA. This individual passes himself off as being in Saudi Arabia representing a school.


He was (or still is?) one of the players at that Interlink-AlYamamah school in Riyadh that has an incredibly convoluted recruitment-interview-selection process. I went through their process a couple of years ago, and by the time they made their offer I was *sure* I didn't want to work for them. Their behavior makes them seem like a cross between Scientology and the CIA.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's their job announcement. The first paragraph tells you pretty much all you need to know:

http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=11291
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jonks



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Beware Reply with quote

Iesa wrote:
Be careful if you are communicating with someone with an email address with mines.edu. Mines.edu is a company from colorado, USA. This individual passes himself off as being in Saudi Arabia representing a school.


And your point is...


Last edited by jonks on Mon May 01, 2006 9:26 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Iesa



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Accepting any overseas job Reply with quote

Better to be completely safe, risk losing the job if necessary, than to find out otherwise.
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Pikgitina



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original poster still hasn't been quite clear about exactly what we should be careful about. OP, with all due respect, if you have something to share, please do spit it out. I assume your motive is to help out other posters and readers on this forum, so in that case we need more than just cryptic hints about possible situations. Exclamation

I met the person with that "@mines e-mail address" (why was his name given in a public domain such as this??? = seriously uncool) in Riyadh about two years ago and he didn't strike me as being CIA-like at all. I was actually quite impressed with his approach and professionalism. Interlink in Saudi also comes across as one of very few institutions in the entire Arabian Peninsula area that is serious about what they want and really trying to match the teaching philosophy of the institution to the teaching philosophies of those who might end up working there. I can see why people get irritated or perhaps even offended by this, but what's wrong with a serious ESL gig once in a while? Isn't the lack of the aforementioned what some posters on this forum moan about?

Also, I don't work there (but I was offered a position), so I can't comment on the housing issues and the like. Question
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jonks



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had exactly the same impression of the recruiting staff from Al Yamamah and Interlink, Pikgitina.
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Desert Storm



Joined: 13 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Where's the evidence Reply with quote

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I think we should know more !


Quote:
In what way should we be careful of him? what is he after?


it's clear that to me that the OP's failure to answer these basic questions makes the matter a personal one between he/she and the party mentioned. (not to mention the fact that he/she felt the need to post that person's full name on a public forum)

it's unsubstantiated and carries little weight. people are entitled to their opinions of course but without any evidence to support them, us readers have little to go on.


Mr. Cecil,
thank you for removing the name from the OP's post but it unfortnately remains in the quoted text of a few other posters.
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Queen of Sheba



Joined: 07 May 2006
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: beware of the boogie man? Reply with quote

This is just strange and the accusations are false. Do a little research online about Al Yamamah and you will find Interlink is a US-based ESL institute with a branch in Colorado at the University of Mines hence the email of mines.edu. They have partnered with Al Yamamah university in Saudi Arabia and some of their heads travel between the two countries. Trade agreements and partnerships happen all the time. So do international flights so I fail to see the need to "beware" of anything short of air plane food.

An odd lot can be attracted to KSA. People don't come here for the sunny beaches or nightlife. For reasons beyond that of the standard expatriate tax free lifestyle such as the ease of attaining employment because of associated regional scares, the benefits offered to people with large families with free housing and air tickets for the entire family, not to mention the preferential treatment sometimes given to race or religion. In addition, they may not have these possibilities in their own country for various reasons. It's wise to be very careful when hiring internationally on any account and many experienced employees and employers would agree with KSA in particular, and if that means an intensive interview process, which I know Interlink has compared to others in KSA, whats wrong with that? Perhaps that's what employers have found it takes to get quality teachers, so where is the scientology or CIA in taking precautions aimed at avoiding the scam artists of ESL.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
NB: Applicants either not meeting the qualifications listed above or not following application the procedures will not be acknowledged


That's hardly in keeping with the idea of getting into the swing of things Gulf style ... Smile
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