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average tefl pay and benefits in 10 years time
better
42%
 42%  [ 9 ]
worse
57%
 57%  [ 12 ]
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thrifty/31/Mark Loyd
you missed out ekmekparasi.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: TEFLing for 20 dollars an hour Reply with quote

You spent an hour on this-well then you are owed 20 dollars.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
you missed out ekmekparasi.

And what does ekmekparasi mean in Turkish, dmb?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekmekparasi means in ENGLISH:

the bread money

Turks who earn a low salary say they are earning bread money as it only just barely covers the bare necessities. A bit like we say in English scraping a living.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor baby. You have my sympathy. Get the DELTA.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Mexico, the expression a que hora sales por el pan? (when are going for the bread?), said by a woman to a male on the street, means 'when are you coming over to my place, handsome?'
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Cowell wrote:
Poor baby. You have my sympathy. Get the DELTA.


I have it.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
Ekmekparasi means in ENGLISH:

the bread money

Turks who earn a low salary say they are earning bread money as it only just barely covers the bare necessities. A bit like we say in English scraping a living.

thrifty, wouldn't you agree the best translation is pocket money?
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Chris_Crossley



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: TEFLer allowance like Jobseeker's (almost) Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
thrifty wrote:
Ekmekparasi means in ENGLISH:

the bread money

Turks who earn a low salary say they are earning bread money as it only just barely covers the bare necessities. A bit like we say in English scraping a living.

thrifty, wouldn't you agree the best translation is pocket money?


Perhaps an even better interpretation would be "TEFLer allowance" - rather akin to Jobseeker's Allowance back in the UK, only, in this case, you would not have to "sign on" (for government hand-outs) every two weeks and plead / lie that you have been "unable to find a job even if you were prepared to do anything".
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
Henry_Cowell wrote:
Poor baby. You have my sympathy. Get the DELTA.

I have it.

You have a DELTA??? That's something you've never before admitted. So you admit that you have more than just a four-week entry-level cert??

Now you indeed are qualified for the 30,000 (and higher) jobs that I've seen advertised in the UK. You silly goose!! You have a bright and illustrious career ahead of you. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please give me some examples with contact details for these 30 grand jobs in the uK. Real jobs not ''we have to advertise so it looks as if it is fair but we already have the inhouse candidate.''

It pains me to admit that I paid 1200 quid for the DELTA and have not really used it.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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''we have to advertise so it looks as if it is fair but we already have the inhouse candidate.''


I think it's very rare to land a good job through the Internet from overseas. Everyone I know who has landed a sweet gig did so by taking a not so good job to get in the country. Once you're on the ground, things tend to open up. A woman in my program teaches at a language school in Toronto and gets $22/hour. That's pretty decent. When she got the job, she had a degree and a CELTA. Once again, that's not the kind of job you can hook up from overseas or find right away in Toronto.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
It pains me to admit that I paid 1200 quid for the DELTA and have not really used it.

Well, don't blame the "TEFL" industry for that, Mr Lazybones. You have only yourself to blame, as I've said before. You've only proven me to have been correct all this time!! Just think of the wonderful DOS and teacher trainer you can become back in the UK.

I shall not give you contact details for jobs that you should be hunting yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just think of the wonderful DOS and teacher trainer you can become back in the UK.
Thrifty, as a DOS what advice would you give your employees? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not be a DOS, nor a pimp nor a rentboy.
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