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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Yule 'The study of language' CUP
I've dug it out
The example he gives is
metsmeaning dish
and
mainmeaning hand

and alsoseaumeaning pail
and son meaning sound

Not being able to speak French I find it difficult to get my head round the idea

allophones and I have never really got on.
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sonya



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:


Not being able to speak French I find it difficult to get my head round the idea

allophones and I have never really got on.


ahh.. the beauty of French language. yeah, mE also means dish. it probably means fifty other things as well. there is a famous, famous excerpt from an alexadrin poem that gives you a good idea of how "flexible" French words are, and how much the French love word games and puns.

Gall, amant de la Reine, alla, tour magnanime,
Galamment de l�ar�ne � la tour Magne, � N�mes.

The two lines take the same sounds, their only difference being intonation.

allophones occur in English as well, it's just less obvious to us because we speak it. To give you an example of an allophone in English, take p aspir� and p non aspir�

pot - p aspirated, because it's at the beginning of the word
spot - p non aspirated
hop - p non aspirated

They never occur in the same environment, but if you switched them around, it would create no difference in meaning. These are allophones of p.

In some languages (not many), aspirated and a non aspirated P are two seperate phonemes, they can occur in the same environments, and they would change the meaning of the word.
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