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Elise9



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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Location: Celaya, GTO

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: help learning Spanish Reply with quote

Hello,
I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations of good/useful books to help start learning spanish. I know a few words already but would like to find something helpful for the grammar, as well as vocabulary- even recommending a particularly good dictionary would help, as the one I have seems not all that great.
Thanks
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a conversation partner. One who wants to learn English. Spend half the time speaking in English and the other half in Spanish.
Listen to the radio
Tv
practise all the time.
Don't be afraid to use it.

All else fails, do what I did and marry someone who doesn't speak English! Smile
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: help learning Spanish Reply with quote

Elise9 wrote:
I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations of good/useful books to help start learning spanish. I know a few words already but would like to find something helpful for the grammar, as well as vocabulary


There is a series of books called "Practice Makes Perfect" - just do a search for "spanish grammar" on Amazon or something, and you'll find about 6 of them. The explanations are quite comprehensive and should give you a good start.

Collins makes a good dictionary, but maybe you can't get that if you're in the States.

good luck!
Lozwich.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larouse makes a good dictionary as well, and shouldn't be hard to find. While you're at it, get a good verb table/conjugation guide.

And of course, a conversation partner...

Justin
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hlamb



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Miriam Webster translation dctionary is quite good. I also use the Larrouse verb/conjugation book. There are numerous internet sites for learning Spanish. Do a search for Spanish classes online and you'll find some good ones for an introduction. But as others have said, try to find someone to talk to, preferably a native speaker. It's the best way to learn.
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Elise9



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the suggestions. I do have a couple of native speaking conversation partners, and I find my comprehension is doing fine, but I lack the confidence to say anything back to them. We tend to communicate in what we can manage of french - which is our common language right now since I actually met these people in french classes here in Montreal. Also my knowledge of french is really helping my spanish as it is more similar to it than english is (from what I can tell so far), so I just feel like I need to get some vocabulary in my memory and start using it!

I'll have a look for those books - thanks again.
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snorklequeen



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Learning Spanish Reply with quote

hi, Elise9,

i felt the same way you do about speaking in Spanish to others

i was fortunate enough to make friends with a woman who was not judgmental about it and very encouraging -- she was also a teacher -- and that brought me out of it

perhaps you can also keep looking, while talking with your other friends, and you will find someone like that to bring the best out in you!

cheers,

Queenie Landers
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set up an intercambio with someone: arrange to chat first in English for say half an hour, then switch over to Spanish for the other half hour.
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MO39



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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Elise9,

To help you lose your self-consciousness about speaking in Spanish, try holding your conversation "classes" in a bar or anywhere you can get a glass of wine or a beer. The alcohol will free your tongue to speak, without your lack of confidence interfering.

�Buena suerte!
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ilovebdt1



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Location: South Korea for now!

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
Hi Elise9,

To help you lose your self-consciousness about speaking in Spanish, try holding your conversation "classes" in a bar or anywhere you can get a glass of wine or a beer. The alcohol will free your tongue to speak, without your lack of confidence interfering.

�Buena suerte!


Meeting in a bar is a good idea. I majored in French and German and when I went to Germany for my year abroad for the first couple of months I was too shy to speak to anyone incase I didn't understand them or they didn't understand me.
As you know, Germany is famous of its beer and luckily there was a little students bar in the halls of residence where I lived.
In the beginning, combining beer and German conversation really helped with my fluency when speaking and after a month or so I had no problems chatting away in German with or without a beer or two inside me Smile

For learning Spanish, I would take a look at the Teach Yourself Series and also the BBC series Suenos.
My favourite book for grammar practise in Schaum's. All available from Amazon.

I improved my spoken Spanish tremedously by having two Ecuadorian boyfriends Wink

ilovebdt
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
Hi Elise9,

To help you lose your self-consciousness about speaking in Spanish, try holding your conversation "classes" in a bar or anywhere you can get a glass of wine or a beer. The alcohol will free your tongue to speak, without your lack of confidence interfering.

�Buena suerte!


IF YOU REALLY want to lose your self-consciousness about speaking in Spanish. Try holding your conversation "classes" in the bedroom. But maybe your tongue won't be so free to speak. Embarassed
Laughing Laughing Laughing

Sorry I couldn't resist.
Laughing Laughing Laughing

But there are several others out there who will back me up on this one, right?
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
But there are several others out there who will back me up on this one, right?


(ahem) Yep. Cool
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for some things, not for others. In my somewhat globetrotting life, I've had a number of different lingua francas for bedroom use. There are certain phrases that I can say in a number of languages I don't speak at all well.

But, ahem, they aren't necessarily the phrases that I need in the classroom, for the most part. Embarassed Shocked

Justin
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Elise9



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for all the suggestions - your's included Melee Laughing
I'm actually having a small party for my Spanish speaking friends this weekend, so hopefully if I get enough beer I can take all the advise to heart and practice!
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooooooooo!
Sounds fun.
We will be expecting a full report on Monday! Razz
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