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Any women for any of the big 5, esp. ECC?Dress code question
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Mamasita516



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Any women for any of the big 5, esp. ECC?Dress code question Reply with quote

Just got a question � I�m getting ready to leave in a little over a month and head out to the Kanto district. I felt confident in my business casual attire until I received the packet of information from the coordinator, Dustin in Tokyo.

I have a LOAD of collared, button down blouses that have � sleeves. Will this be okay with ECC? Also, I know that men have to tuck in their shirts since they are required to wear ties. Do women with ECC have this sort of requirement? It didn�t state anything in the packet and it is not going to make or break my decision to take the job, I just want to be prepared for that first day (July 3rd!!!!).

Thanks to all that can help
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callmesim



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did you wear to the interview?

By the way, Dustin (if it's recruitment Dustin) is in Osaka. And he looks nothing like you'd expect Wink
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Mamasita516



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to my interview, I wore a black skirt suit with a white button down blouse (3/4 sleeve, but I never took off the jacket). I don't have to wear a suit every day to work, so that's why I am concerned.

And sorry, Dustin is in Osaka, Justin is in Tokyo...and I have no idea what either of them might look like.
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TRod



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: ECC dress code Reply with quote

Hi Mamasita. I just came back from the ECC interview on May 11 and from what I got from the information session, I think 3/4 length shirts should be fine. He said that the dress code was business casual, so people, especially women have a lot of lee-way with that. Let me know if you have any other questions. Good luck in the Kanto district!!
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Mamasita516



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...that makes me feel better! Thanks! The only thing I am concerned about now though is tucking them in. They don't really cut those shirts to be tucked in...I guess if anything else, I'll figure it out when I get there!
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wore exactly the kind of shirt you are talking about the whole time I worked at eikaiwas and never had a problem. As long as it looks tidy and if it's obviously cut in a way that it sits nicely without being tucked in I don't think anyone will be concerned about it.
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shadowsinner



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey Mamasita516... i'm in australia, and i'm heading off to kanto too by Jul 3rd for training - i'm guessing i'll see you there!! whoa, how freaky is this coincidence? lol Smile
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Firestarter



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitly harder for women than men, but I'd suggest being conservative in dress and being more on the side of business attire than business casual. When you're teaching kids classes I think there's more leeway, but if you're at one of the big schools or teaching only adults I think wearing a suit (for males or females) is more appropriate and increasingly expected.
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callmesim



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you received a big email from Dustin yet with about 8 attachments in it? One is all about dress code. If you haven't got it yet I could email it to you.

What you're describing sounds fine. It's actually difficult to remember what the females wear because I work with so few as they are in the vast minority. Provided you look professional and presentable then you'll be fine. Just do what everyone does - come to the first day of training dressed all special and over the following weeks slowly ease it down.

What you've mentioned though sounds fine.

As for what Dustin looks like, the only reason I mentioned it was because when my training group met him, we all thought "woah, I was way off!"
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callmesim



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you received a big email from Dustin yet with about 8 attachments in it? One is all about dress code. If you haven't got it yet I could email it to you.

What you're describing sounds fine. It's actually difficult to remember what the females wear because I work with so few as they are in the vast minority. Provided you look professional and presentable then you'll be fine. Just do what everyone does - come to the first day of training dressed all special and over the following weeks slowly ease it down.

What you've mentioned though sounds fine.

As for what Dustin looks like, the only reason I mentioned it was because when my training group met him, we all thought "woah, I was way off!"
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Mamasita516



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara: Thanks! Always helps if I can get some feedback from someone who's worn the type of shirt I am talking about. Come to think of it, they hardly sell full length sleeve shirts in the stores anymore!!

shadowsinner: See you there! I'll be the one wearing the 3/4 sleeve button down collar shirt! Laughing

Firestarter: The only reason I am asking is because at the interview session the recruiter placed a rather large emphasis on the fact that the attire was business casual. That being said, I wasn't sure if business casual in Japan was that much different from business casual in the States. Thanks for that though! I will definitely bring a nice chunk of business stuff too!

callmesim: yeah I got the big email, and I think that is what sent me into a tizzy because it gives some info on dress, but there is always a gray area and you just wanna be sure not to get too much into that gray area upon arrival, you know? Thanks for your help too!
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Firestarter



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamasita516 wrote:


Firestarter: The only reason I am asking is because at the interview session the recruiter placed a rather large emphasis on the fact that the attire was business casual. That being said, I wasn't sure if business casual in Japan was that much different from business casual in the States. Thanks for that though! I will definitely bring a nice chunk of business stuff too!




Yeah, sounds like my interview too....however your recruiter may have been a step behind. At our training in April it was made pretty clear that dress standards are on the rise and that the dress code will be changed to that more suitable for a business environment.
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Perpetual Traveller



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the biggest no nos are sleeveless shirts and 3/4 length trousers.

PT
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shadowsinner



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perpetual Traveller wrote:
I believe that the biggest no nos are sleeveless shirts and 3/4 length trousers.

PT


this is my impression also.
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Mamasita516



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great guys! Thanks
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