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yaramaz
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Yes, it derives from the Turkish phrase Ver Siz, meaning 'without giving'. I don't quite know how it evolved into a term denoting opposition though, but I can speculate that it has something to do with wild Turkmen on horseback in combat, pillaging- not giving, but rather taking.
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justme
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Ah, very astute, Yaramaz, though I take issue with your history. Turkish horsemen were, of course, never wild. Indeed, centuries of a foreign smear campaign that has been carried out to make Turks look like barbarians so they can be blamed for the Armenian thing and kept out of the EU might make you believe they were wild, but in fact, all Turkish horsemen were polite, hospitality, and hot.
And they loved all foreigner people and were never racist. |
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Baba Alex
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Ah, very astute, Yaramaz, though I take issue with your history. Turkish horsemen were, of course, never wild. Indeed, centuries of a foreign smear campaign that has been carried out to make Turks look like barbarians so they can be blamed for the Armenian thing and kept out of the EU might make you believe they were wild, but in fact, all Turkish horsemen were polite, hospitality, and hot.
And they loved all foreigner people and were never racist. |
yeah but did you like the way I put 'vs' in bold? |
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justme
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| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I liked it ever so much!! |
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yaramaz
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| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| It made me all tingly inside. |
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justme
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| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| It's very development. |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| cheers guys! |
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