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HELP: self sponsered visa

 
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thirstie



Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 18
Location: Kagawa Ken, Japan

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: HELP: self sponsered visa Reply with quote

Could someone give me some more in-depth info about this please. Have done a search but still confused (getting more so everyday, probably a bit stressed too, sorry!!)

I quit my job at the beginning of the year and have since been teaching for a city office and a well respected shogakku. I have contracts from both. Combined they are well above the standard eikiwa salary. I also have some privates.

However, my visa runs out in a couple of months and I'm kind of panicking. Every time I or go into, or someone else calls Takamatsu Immigration, I seem to get a different answer. I only speak survival Japanese at the moment, so my big problem in the immigration office was that the woman I talked to only spoke very basic English too.

The org I do most work for wants to change my contract with them in return for visa sponsership, which on all levels would be disadvantageous for me. They say it will be less complicated for them to organise than for me to do it independently. But, if I can figure it out myself I'm in a much better bargaining position. The contract I have hasn't been signed yet, due to other issues. I've been trying to do the Japanese style softly softly bargaining approach but I'm worried they're going to try to use my visa as leverage.

I have a really important meeting with them on Monday afternoon so want to go into immigration in the morning with a native speaker to figure out my options.

I'm pondering all the million dollar questions about how much this job means etc and just need info on the technicalities of getting my own visa.

Yoroshiku onegaishimasu

thirstie
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 5309
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your first prioroty is your visa. If this company is willing to sponsor you, it should be worth something to you. If your visa expires, it doesn't matter how good your contacts are paying because you won't be here.
When bargaining, be cool, don't look anxious or desperate, it is all about leverage.
Good luck.

Where in Kagawa are you?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your company doesn't have to sponsor you. If you have worked here a year and have guaranteed income for any time thereafter, you can renew your visa. Just get your shougakko and city hall office to provide the documentation (your private lessons won't count), and show it to immigration.
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earthmonkey



Joined: 18 Feb 2005
Posts: 188
Location: Meguro-Ku Tokyo

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Your company doesn't have to sponsor you. If you have worked here a year and have guaranteed income for any time thereafter, you can renew your visa. Just get your shougakko and city hall office to provide the documentation (your private lessons won't count), and show it to immigration.


Right. I did this in April. You will need some information, such as a profit and loss statement from the company or companies. Show your contracts and last year's tax info. I don't believe that there is actually something called self sponsorship. One of the companies will be listed as your sponsor, but they don't have to 'sponsor' you, or even be aware of it.

Good luck. Worrying about your visa is no fun, I know.
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thirstie



Joined: 22 Mar 2004
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Location: Kagawa Ken, Japan

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,

what sort of documentation do I need apart from the obvious contracts in question and educational degrees and certs? immigration were especially vague on this. they also seemed confused about the whole idea of an independent visa. I think 95% of gaigin around here are with jet or one of the big eikiwa.

the sheet they gave me said I needed profit and loss statements of the orgs I'm working for, but it seems odd to me that a company would hand out financial statements. however, before I get slammed, I'm an unashamed arts student and willingly confess i know nothing about business.

Gordon, I live in Marugame, but for obvious reasons don't want to post where I'm working on a public forum at this stage. Kagawa ain't that big!! Are you in Takamatsu?

cheers.
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earthmonkey



Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Location: Meguro-Ku Tokyo

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thirstie wrote:
Thanks guys,

what sort of documentation do I need apart from the obvious contracts in question and educational degrees and certs? immigration were especially vague on this. they also seemed confused about the whole idea of an independent visa. I think 95% of gaigin around here are with jet or one of the big eikiwa.

the sheet they gave me said I needed profit and loss statements of the orgs I'm working for, but it seems odd to me that a company would hand out financial statements. however, before I get slammed, I'm an unashamed arts student and willingly confess i know nothing about business.

Gordon, I live in Marugame, but for obvious reasons don't want to post where I'm working on a public forum at this stage. Kagawa ain't that big!! Are you in Takamatsu?

cheers.


I believe they are confused about the idea of an independent visa because this type of visa does not exist. You'll need those profit and loss statements. I forgot the Japanese word for this document, but you need to get it from your employer(s).
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thirstie wrote:
Thanks guys,

what sort of documentation do I need apart from the obvious contracts in question and educational degrees and certs? immigration were especially vague on this. they also seemed confused about the whole idea of an independent visa. I think 95% of gaigin around here are with jet or one of the big eikiwa.

the sheet they gave me said I needed profit and loss statements of the orgs I'm working for, but it seems odd to me that a company would hand out financial statements. however, before I get slammed, I'm an unashamed arts student and willingly confess i know nothing about business.

Gordon, I live in Marugame, but for obvious reasons don't want to post where I'm working on a public forum at this stage. Kagawa ain't that big!! Are you in Takamatsu?

cheers.


I understand. I am on the other side of Takamatsu, near Yashima.
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kitano



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