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HunanForeignGuy
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 Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: Shanghai Maritime University |
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Has anyone on this Board had any experiences with this University?
If you have, your comments are most appreciated.
Thanks.
HFG |
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Midlothian Mapleheart
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Middy
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prof
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Midlothian Mapleheart wrote: |
I have two friends who work there, and they both really like it. It has a nice campus, not too far from the subway station. The best thing is, it's located in beautiful, sunny Pudong! Bring your street pyjamas.
Middy |
After reading this I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.
It's a mediocre low-paying university. Nothing more, nothing less. The students are not the best (that's why they got into that school).
If you are qualified and willing to accept the low pay, at least apply to one of the better schools in the City. Teach better students, have more opportunities for outside work, have better libraries, etc.
Unless being "not too far from a subway station" is what attracts you to a university job.
And "beautiful, sunny Pudong!"...well it's not sunny in today. And beautiful? Where do you come from? Downtown Detroit? |
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Midlothian Mapleheart
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prof
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| Midlothian Mapleheart wrote: |
You're right. It was all a pack of lies. I'm sorry. You're better off at Jiatong or Fudan. I'm sure you can waltz right on in, because nobody wants to work there. The students at SMU are either mutants or mentally/behaviourally challenged. My friends hate it and just want me to sucker in their replacements. They are beaten by the FAO and forced to live in a tiger cage. Outside work ist verboten. Pudong is a slum; drab and run-down. It's always either raining, snowing, sleeting or foggy. I have to live here because I'm banned from Puxi. To get to SMU you have to first go to Waigaoqiao, then to the airport and circle back over the Lupu and Nanpu bridges. It takes at least 7 hours to get there, even if you live next door. You will be arrested for wearing pyjamas. Laugh if it stops you from crying. 
Middy |
So people can "waltz" right in to the Maritime University with a month left in the term?
I never accused you of lying. However, the advice you offered was comical. |
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Midlothian Mapleheart
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HunanForeignGuy
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: Slinging Match |
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Dear Midlothian:
Thank you very much for your helpful information. I asked a question and you were kind enough to take the time to anwer me. I will PM you, if you don't mind, with further questions.
As to Prof:
I am the OP of this thread and am attempting to seek information that I could not find elsewhere on the 'Net. Under the right set of positive circumstances, Dave's can be a very helpful place for information.
I would appreciate your NOT turning my earnest question into a slinging match as any honest and worthwhile information that is shared here by the other posters of this Board is appreciated. Please be so kind as to help me with any real information that you have.
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prof
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I think I did offer you some very good advice. It might simply not be what you want to hear. But it's good advice from someone who has lived here a long time.
If you don't want to take it, that's fine too.
Yes, Daves can be a very good place to get information. Who is disputing that? But not all information is equally valid.
Good luck! |
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Midlothian Mapleheart
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Leon Purvis
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Slinging Match |
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| HunanForeignGuy wrote: |
...Under the right set of positive circumstances, Dave's can be a very helpful place for information.
HFG |
And nobody knows it better than HFG, huh? |
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Malsol
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Location: Lanzhou
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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SURPRIZE!
[b]Time out -You are all correct. [/b]
This is a 2nd tier uni with average students, average pay, average campus etc. etc. etc.
Yes there are better jobs. There are worse.
Being close to public transportation can be very important. Try Jia Ding in North Shanghai or the suburbs in South like Minghan and you will wish you were close to the chingway.
If you are a real scholar type then no uni in China is for you. This is basically a backpacker's market. The Maritime Uni is no better nor worse than any other public uni and Fudan, Tong ji and the other top unis pay much less.
I taught at Tong ji and Fudan and wished I had not.
The best thing about Maritime uni is that it is in Shanghai, well sort of. lol
Is Shanghai great? Just New York with Chinese characteristics. Try Dalian, Chicago with Chinese characteristics.
Guess what? Many are going to disagree with me. Who cares? Take the job and if it does not work out, move on. live and learn. |
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HunanForeignGuy
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: Thank You |
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Malsol,
Thank you for the information and insight. No job has been offered and this was only a posting seeking information. How long have you been in China?
Leon Purvis,
Thank you SO MUCH for your substantive, in-depth comments. They added SO much to this thread.
HFG |
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InTime
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I TAUGHT THERE FOR 1.5 SEMESTERS.
Inner-university politics influenced my class assignments...unfortunately.
I was told that because the Pres of SMU wanted me to use all my time to teach the NAVIGATION-focused students...the generally unmotivated non-English majors...from the China hinterland.
I gave several pro bono classes for the English Dept. ...good results...but I was told "Sorry...we need all your time w/our other students."
I had the school print up the bi-lingual script of Titanic, and I played the audio tape, for listening comprehension and role play.
DESTINY intervened and I was offered a job as Executive Director of the American Chamber of Commerce in the NE hinterland. They flew me up there, put me up at a 5-star hotel, and agreed to pay off the damages to SMU---4000 RMB or so.
(AmCham housed me at a 3rd-rate hotel next to the freeway. The hotel provided free Chinese language training, as I regularly received phone calls from their hotel-based micro-entrepreneurs" "Massag-ey??") |
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