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Banner



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:36 am    Post subject: Where to report illegal work activities Reply with quote

Which government office would one contact to report a company employing foreigners who are working with a visitor`s visa?
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Roger



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the PSB!
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Klamm



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. So now my question would be this: This is September. I've started work with a school on a visitor's visa until they can change the visa into 'Z' visa. They need reference letters, they say, before they can begin processing it. That will take another week...I can't rightly demand people write me a reference letter tomorrow (or even if I could they probably wouldn't comply). Should I tell the school I won't work until they process my 'Z' visa, or should I continue working? From what I gather, most people come to China on a vistor's visa or otherwise and then have the school they work for change it into a 'Z' visa. It's also true that in China, most people in 90+ percent of the cases, have no worries whatever visa they're working on...a co-worker very dedicated to ratting them out would probably be the only way one could get busted here, excepting the once in a million raid like they had in Shanghai.

I guess you never know who you're working next to, and as I don't need the money, and I know the school badly needs me, it might just be better safe than sorry. Any thoughts on this situation? Sure I can see busting somebody for working on six month F with no intention of getting the proper papers, but come on, this is September! It takes time to switch those visas!

K.
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latefordinner



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klamm wrote:
I've started work with a school on a visitor's visa until they can change the visa into 'Z' visa. They need reference letters, <snip> Should I tell the school I won't work until they process my 'Z' visa, or should I continue working? <snip> It takes time to switch those visas!

K.


I'm in a marginally similar situation, but I'm not sweating it. I spent the past year working on an F visa, and one of the reasons why I'm now working for another school is that they have promised me a Z. So far they've done what they can to deliver it, too. The ironic twist is that this time it's the laowei who doesn't have his documents with him, because greenie that I was a year ago I thought, "Why risk losing these valuable docuents in a strange land? I'll never need them". Looking at it from my new employer's perspective, it's a pain in the class, but he can deal with it. The PSB understands paperwork, and these things can be processed fairly easily.

Your school should be able to do it in about 2 weeks, if they have the permit to hire a foreign expert. If they don't they'll just jerk you around for about 6 months before admitting that there are a few small delays, please be patient. If it takes more than a month, start being a pain in the class. Right now don't sweat it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:22 am    Post subject: Letters Reply with quote

The PSB insists on two letters of reference to process the paperwork. This is not something the school itself requires. Just write out a couple of letters saying you were a good worker and have anyone sign them. It's a red-tape rubber-stamp thing.
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garbotara



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:16 pm    Post subject: Tianjin Yinhua International School Reply with quote

I was working at a school that did not even bother to clean the apartments before we moved in.They were so filthy!They only cleaned the empty apartments for those of us there they could not care less.
Then there was no hoy water for ocer a week since , I suspect, the Chinese teachers did not have it. My then boss said be happy you have water. This school is 97 km outside Beijing. If it was in the wilds of Sichuan it would be another matter.
There were no bedding provided no curtains, no gas for cooking, no kitchen utensils. It was quite pathetic.I finally got fed up. Was i wrong to leave? I started to doubt they would pay us.The name of the school is the Tianjin Yinhua International School.Avoid this school like the plague.
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MonkeyKing



Joined: 24 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, it's like South Korea all over again, and China is so much bigger. This board is gonna be huge soon, mark my words....Shocked
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gerard



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banner do you really want to report your brothers and sisters to the immigration authorities??? Also I doubt it would be real easy. You would likely need to show up in person and spend a day filling out a million forms. Even then they might be too "busy" to do anything about it.

For the others I got a Z visa without letters...I lost them on the way here and the school managed it without any hassle...How I dont know but I suspect it is the school who really want these anyway...Generally my degree and my passport are the only references I use...
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