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[mongrelcat]

Here is the first offer i got from China. I understand GEVU is a recruiter...and I like how she says the salary is negotiable. But as a sickly green newb to China, what should i look out for, or question?

The "administrative tutor" (?) will be phone interviewing me. I surely will ask about the lodgings, and contract details....like paid time off, renewals, probation period etc. I've already emailed her back asking what the names of the schools are and what kind of schools they are- gov't, private, etc

But what do you all think about this?
(BTW, i am fully educated, certified, and experienced)




GEVU Teaching Programme in China



Thank you very much for email. Yes, please fax your University Diploma to us soon.


I am very pleased to let you know that you are welcome to join two of our beautiful partner schools in Shanghai (job code 1016), and in Kunshn, around one hour to Shanghai(job code 0975). The salary can be negotiable. Please see the information of the job offer below.



Job Title
Shanghai: Foreign English Teacher

Job Code
1016
Catalog
Paid Job

Location
Shanghai
Start Date
Sep / 2006

Salary/Allowance
4500 - 5500 RMB/Month
Length of Time Commitment
12 Months

Age of Students
12-18


Number of Posts
4

Requirement
--Nationality: English native speakers
--Bachelor Degree or above
--At least two years teaching experience
--About 18 teaching periods per week

Other Benefits
--Accommodation: Free and well furnished.
--Travel allowance: 2200RMB for one year contract.
--Air fare allowance: Return ticket for one year contract.
--Free local travel to and from airport to campus
--Holidays:Spring Festival: 21 days
May holiday: Seven days
National holiday: Seven days,
--Provide "Z" visa.






Job Title
Jiangsu:Foreign English Teacher

Job Code
0975
Catalog
Paid Job

Location
Kunshan in Jiangsu Province-1 hour to Shanghai
Start Date
Aug / 2006

Salary/Allowance
6000 - 8000 RMB/Month
Length of Time Commitment
12 Months

Age of Students
All Ages


Number of Posts
5

Requirement
--English native speakers
--College diploma or above
--Love teaching children and healthy.
--Be good at expressing, quick thinking, strong logic and good communicative skills.
--Be good at organizing teaching and some specialities
--Teaching certificate is preferred
--Maximum 20 teaching hours per week

Other Benefits
-- Accommodation: Free (bathroom, kitchen. TV set, a telephone, a computer (surfing INTERNET free ), an air-conditioner, washing machine and some necessary furniture.)
-- Air tickets: Free Single Ticket for six-month contract/Return ticket for twelve-month contract
-- Free 3 meals in school cafeteria
-- medical and accident insurance
-- Free local travel to and from airport to campus
-- Holidays:Spring Festival: One month
Summer Vacation: Two months
May holiday: Seven days
National holiday: Seven days
--Provide "Z" Visa,Foreigner Expert Card and Residence Card and so on.




If you are interested in it, could you please confirm your available date and contact number as the administrative tutor would like to make an appointment with you in the form of telephone interview?



I look forward to hearing from you soon. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.



Yours sincerely



Sandy

International Operation Director (China)

Global Educational Volunteers Union

Tel: 0044 1273 686187 (UK), 0086 755 83696998 (China)

Fax: 0044 1273 688752 (UK), 0086 755 83696928 (China)

Website: www.gevu.org

[kev7161]

Some things to think about and/or to ask about:

1. When there is a salary range, generally the highest salary is meant for those with a PhD or Masters. The lowest range is for those who don't know to ask for more or for those with perhaps a Bachelor's in . . . something and little to no experience. I would think a teaching degree and experience should at least land you in the middle range, so you might clarify EXACTLY what is to be your salary and then you have to determine if you are happy with what they quote you.

2. Never let them tell "about" so many teaching hours or periods per week. Make it exact in the contract and then also exactly how much you will be paid for teaching beyond that stated amount. Also, if you can, make them tell you how many PERIODS you'll work per week, regardless of the length of the period. You'll thank me later.

3. Are there any extra hours you need to be aware of? Hours such as English corners, staff meetings, or office time? Are these included in your salary or is that overtime? Again, try to get as much EXACT wording in the contract as possible.

4. Ask for a detailed list of furnishings as well as linens, kitchen utensils, etc. Will there be a deposit taken out of your first pay? Which floor will your apartment be on? Off-campus or on-campus? Shared or single? Good A/C and heat? Hmmm, what else?

5. Three free meals. If you love crappy (usually) cafeteria Chinese food, then you're in luck, otherwise you might ask for a meal stipend instead (maybe 200rmb a month) so you can shop and cook for yourself. A box of cold cereal for breakfast can cost upwards of 50rmb per. That's over $5.00 US!! Little things like that can add up in a hurry if you're not careful.

6. Textbooks and other teaching materials: Often a teacher is brought into a school, shown where he/she will teach, given a piece of chalk and pushed into their first class. Are you prepared with plenty of English based games and activities? If nothing else, snag the Chinese English teacher's text so you can create speaking activities that parallel what he/she is teaching. Meet with them as often as you can to glean info from them and observe their classes whenever you have spare time.

7. Airfare: Clarify if they are buying a ONE-WAY ticket home for you next summer? Are they REIMBURSING your round-trip ticket? Or something else? It seems like lately that one-way is becoming more common. See if you can't negotiate that (say, 1/2 of your RT ticket reimbursed at Spring Festival, the other half at the end of the school year).

8. Start dates - check. What about your last day? Will you be paid during holidays? All of your pay? 70%? 50%? What about medical? What exactly does that mean? Will they pay should you have to go to an off-campus hospital? Sick days off? Paid?

Sadly, this is only the tip of the iceberg. You will NEVER be able to think of everything you need to know before getting here. But as much clarification and assurances IN WRITING you can get, the better off you'll be in the long run. Good luck!!

[mongrelcat]

wowwowwow

thank you

[paulmanser]

Hi ppl

Not after views on applying with I TO I by the way. I know alot of ppl who like to diss I TO I.

link = http://www.tefl-jobs-abroad.com/viewPages.php?pageid=11912

According to I TO I pay is like this;

15 hrs: 3500 RMB / 430 USD / �230 / �350
20 hrs: 5000 RMB / 610 USD / �350 / �515
25 hrs: 6200 RMB / 760 USD / �430 / �640

how good is that. Private lang school TEFLer, newbie.

cost of living is surpsoe to be 3000RMB.

Salary:
3 500 - 6200 RMB / 430-760 USD / �230-�420 / �350 - �610 per month
Accommodation:
Private bedroom in rent-free fully furnished shared accommodation
Bonus:
100 USD � 1 150 USD bonus on successful completion of placement
Arrival:
Meet and greet service at the airport / train station of your final destination and transfer to school plus two day orientation on arrival
Chinese Lessons:
Free Chinese classes in the school provided by a qualified Chinese teacher
Locations:
Dalian, Jinan, Xian, Dandong, Shenyang, Tangshan.
Placement lengths:
6, 7.5, 12, 13.5 months
*Departure Dates:
September & March (6 or 12 month contracts); January & July (7.5 or 13.5 month contracts).*
Student age range:
4-50 years old

[HunanForeignGuy]

Dear OP,


GEVU has been discussed here ad infinitum. Please exercise extreme caution when using this recruiter....extreme caution and then some. If you were to throw a lit match into a field of hydrogen, it would be less dangerous, speaking metaphorically of course. Just check this board, do a search and you will see. And then do a check on the Net.

It seems to me that there was a whole thread about GEVU around here recently.....

Next, I believe that I know the school in Kushan to which you are referring. I don't want to discuss it openly, because there are different prevailing opinions, but if you were to PM me, perhaps then.

All the best and be careful,


HFG