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HunanForeignGuy · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC

Malsol,

Thank you for your comments. Indeed, there is a salary schedule and I have seen it as you note.

Purvis,

I am sorry that your extra-curricular activities impeded you from viewing the schedule. Shall I get a copy of it and forward it to you?

Hunan Foreign Guy

Leon Purvis · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:43 am Post subject:

Guy,

Post the link so that everyone can see it. My FAO is especially interested in seeing your document.

And let's be up-front about things too. It ain't an extracurricular activity.

It's a FOREIGN AFFAIR!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HunanForeignGuy · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC

Leon Purvis · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

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Your sense of humour is particularly quaint...how unusual.

But didn't you swear up-and-down in a previous posting that such a schedule never, ever existed, and that you after all "would have known about it". As for your FAO, perhaps we will just let him do the job for which he was hired. Let him look..or his girlfriend...or whomever your conduit is.[/quote]

Hu Fo,

I never swore up and down. I just asked for some accountability. You offered to send me a pay schedule. I asked you to publish the link because my FAO wants to know about it.

What's the problem?

But that's okay. I think this discussion has run its course.

HunanForeignGuy · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC

Leon Purvis · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:05 am Post subject:

**Yawn**

visa · Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 11

I've been helping an FAO with recruiting, so she showed me the conference handbook. Several pages were in English. It said things like, Be truthful and straightforward with foreign teachers, give them the information they need. It also included sample letters for teachers who misbehaved. One explained why a teacher was being quarenteened: he disregarded advice about staying at the school during SARS, therefore, they had no idea where he had been and what he might have been exposed to; furthermore, he wouldn't be paid for the time he was in quarenteen. Another explained to other foreign teachers why one of their colleagues was being discipled, fired, or not invited back, I don't remember which: he got drunk and sprawled himself on the ground on campus, causing school officials much embarassment. The letter also described a confrontation between a school official and the same teacher in front of brothel. One of the speakers, a foreign teacher himself, explained to the FAOs, "There's a difference between recruiting and managing." The conference was 3 days, so I'm sure it covered a lot more than salaries. I asked her to make a copy of the manual, as well as translate it. She agreed, but never got around to it. Those of you who've been helping with recruiting, ask to see the manual and lecture notes. Also ask who the speakers were.

prof · Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 741 Location: Boston/China

If universities can't get teachers at 3000 or 4000 they can always go to the ever-growing number of dispatch companies popping up.

3 or 4 grand (RMB), a plane ticket, a visa and a room and you've got a huge list of teachers in modern day China.

ChinaLady · Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: Salary for FT

the FAO's have a gathering every 6 - 12 months. like many "business" meetings here and in the west it is mainly a social gathering with a few new mandates from the powers above, in China, read - Beijing.most of the schools nob their heards and go along, at the meetings, and go home and do it the way they always have.
some schools now offer a "housing allowance" as a hidden bonus. this is not taxed and usually paid on the last day of the month.
and, yes, you are in their housing. if the money is called salary anything above 4,000 rmb is taxed. so give the FT a non-taxed housing allowance or a transportation subsidy or a food subsidy, , ,well, you do see where this is going?
what ever you can work out, whatever the school wants to call it, the closer you get to the 10,000 rmb level the better for you.
back to the old syaing,"you get what you pay for," and many Chinese schools are finally discovering this.
YEA!!