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IreneM



Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 19
Location: washington, dc

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: cost of living / pay Reply with quote

hola!

im currently teaching in costa rica, yet thinking of moving to spain. my mother is from greece and i think i qualify for the european passport so id like to try to get that.

just a few questions if someone could please help me out...

whats te cost of living there like? around how much do teachers make? how much are apartments? and how do you like it there??

any help would be appreciated!
gracias!

irene


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MAP Magazine



Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 46
Location: Madrid, Spain

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Irene!

Let me see if I can help.

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What is the cost of living there like?

Madrid is actually quite expensive compared with other European cities, such as Berlin. Let me give you an idea of prices:
1) Monthly subway/bus pass (good for unlimited rides) = 39 Euros.
2) Pack of cigarettes = 2,35 Euros.
3) Lunch in average restaurant = 7,50 - 12 Euros (food is pricier than the average place in the United States where, well at least in the Midwest, you can get a ton of food for 5 bucks)

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Around how much do teachers make?


We are dicussing this very topic on another thread. Just click here to read it.


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How much are apartments?


Average furnished shared apartment (2-3 other people). 350-500 per month.

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how do you like it there??


I wouldn't live anywhere else in the world. Madrid is the best.

Hope that helps,

Phil
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Kingbee



Joined: 26 May 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Bush-land

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pack of cigarettes for 2,35 Euros?

They were 4,00 Euros in Germany!!

With prices THAT low I'll be up to 2 packs per day in no time:)
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MAP Magazine



Joined: 24 May 2006
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Location: Madrid, Spain

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, cigarettes are still cheap in Spain. However, food for example is more expensive that in the States (except for olive oil!)
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IreneM



Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 19
Location: washington, dc

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: more questions.... Reply with quote

pack of cigs in nicaragua : 90 cents
costa rica and panama: $1

i just got back to new york and its about $7 a pack! Shocked

muchas gracias for the info! i was hoping to be on the coast, can you recomend coastal cities? hows barcelona?

looks like the paper work for obtaining a european passport should take a month or 2 (i was born in the us but my parents are greek)... so im spending time with my fam for now before bouncing out there sometime in the next couple months. do language schools there enroll on going?

in costa rica i was teaching for inlingua, a company that teaches advance business english to companies in most major cities around the world. have you heard of it?can you recomend any language schools?

sorry so many questions!!

pura vida

irene
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wildchild



Joined: 14 Nov 2005
Posts: 519
Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well at least in the Midwest, you can get a ton of food for 5 bucks


You call that "food"??? Shocked Laughing

And does it come with 1/4 or an entire liter o' wine and an espresso or dessert? I should think not! Evil or Very Mad
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SpainExpat



Joined: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 5
Location: www.spainexpat.com

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, smokes are dirt cheap here, it's great. Try to find Nobel brand if possible, otherwise stick to American brands. Some of the Spanish ones leave you feeling nasty in the morning... Wink

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And does it come with 1/4 or an entire liter o' wine and an espresso or dessert? I should think not!

Menus del dia rock! Two courses, wine, coffee, desert for like $6-7... I love it here.

As for the cost of living, check out Cost of Living in Spain where I've written quite a bit about it. Apartments in Spain too.

Ironically I'm thinking of checking out Costa Rica myself, let's trade places for a while perhaps! jk... I love it here.
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Chitchat



Joined: 16 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: costa del sol Reply with quote

Rentals 1-2 bed apt approx 500 euros a month upwards.
shared you can pay about 350-400 for a room in apt in Costa del sol area.

Food 1 chicken 3.00 euros
bottle of vino 1 + euros
shoes from 30 euros
can of coke 60 supermarket 1.50 shops
meal of the day menu 10 euros upwards
beer in pub 2.50 normally 4+ euros for media

inlingua Marbella pays 11.00 euros an hour other language schools pay from 8 euros-10 euros an hour. No sick pay, no holiday pay.
Contracts are also only for 9 months

There are a lot of native English teachers in Spain coming from the U.K that are over qualified with PGCE, CELTA and TEFL Trinity if you have this you can find work easily. If not you will end up in a school that�s not exactly the real deal, there are many schools on the Costa del sol that exploits the English teacher and this is why you can be sacked without warning.

Teachers hang on for dear life to keep their job, because like in other countries in the EU there isn�t a lot of work about. So maybe you are the teacher of the month, but next month you are not and there are about 10 new expats coming onto the Costa, every month with a CELTA, PGCE looking for the dream life of living in the sun.

Fact most teachers end up doing bar/ cafe work for 3 euros an hour!!!
Cool
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b harmon



Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chitchat,

I�ve been to the Costas Sol for the beach, the sun, non stop parties but teaching I know absolutely "nada" about it in the Costas. So you must be right about the teaching conditions over there. But again that's the Costas and wages are different in Madrid and even in BCN.

I live in Madrid and I've been an English teacher all the time I've been here and that's close to 2 years now.

While there are "academias" in Madrid paying 10-11 euros/hour, the norm is around 14-18 euros an hour, EU or non EU citizen. I'm American and the rates they currently offer hasn't really changed - they still have a pay scale from where they base the rate to offer a new or experienced teacher, EU or non EU. I don't see any euros added on the offer just because I now have my NIE (residency/work permit) !

I get paid between 16-18 euros an hour, depending on the school, the course to teach, where I have to go, etc, etc.

Madrid will always have better salaries but again it is also more expensive here. My 2 cents ... if you are looking to make on average 1100 - 1200 on a 12 month spread, then it has to be Madrid.

Some teachers make more, especially the ones who have private students combined with Business English courses from big academies but it's better to stay on the conservative side and say 1100 - 1200 a month because although there is work during the summer months, you might not want to do it, especially if you're not into summer camp work or immersion courses (immersions can be 6 - 8 hours a day!) in August!

I'm doing one of those, at least I teach in rooms with full blast a/c so you get a little break from the August heat. �Suerte !

Brian
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