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Golightly



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 877
Location: in the bar, next to the raki

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

almuze wrote:
Life in Turkey may be hard for a lot of turks (let's not forget my occasional jaunts thro gececondo land whenever my husband is overwhelmed by some wierd angst) but it still gives them no right to sit and start and ask stupid questions they know are stupid.

my favourite daft question (and answer)
On the telephone:
-Ne yapiyorsun?
-Seninle konusyorum, tabii...
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hobo



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 91

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definition of racism
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a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
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tvik



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Location: here

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a certain groove you can get into that's not rude but shows that you have a strong character. Being from Canada, the country with the world's most unbearably "nice" people I have found that that flavor of politeness smells more like weakness and stupidity to the Turkish nose. Fortunately I grew up with russian jews so I lost much of my disingenuous baby-food-niceness. I don't mind Turks giving me a curious push to test what I'm made of. You just need to push back a bit, don't overreact, and they start to smile.
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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 1067
Location: South Western Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Owt for nowt Reply with quote

Any way they can the locals go out of their way to get one on you, aka shaft you .
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shafting foreigners is simply patriotic.
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tvik



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty, you of all people should be able to provide some tips on haggling i'm sure. isn't shafting the same as bartering??
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haggling and shafting are two completely different things.
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calsimsek



Joined: 15 Jul 2004
Posts: 775
Location: Ist Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on where you are and who your with. In all my years I've never been asked to give free lessons or anything like that. Turks respect and fear authority. If you have a look of selfimportance no one will ever ask you a thing.

I was asked to help get a vise for a student and I asked him if he could help get my friend a work permite from Ankara.

When you marry a Turk (or anyone form the Med) you marry the family. Confused I have no problem buying a few things once and a while for my wife's old grandmother. If I was at home I would help out my family if they needed it and they would ( and have ) help me out.
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justme



Joined: 18 May 2004
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Location: Istanbul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there's also a quality of new foreigners to look, well, shiny and new. Most of those requests happened when I was here less than a year. I don't know if I look any more important or if I've just gotten older and grubbier...
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Baba Alex



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calsimsek wrote:
It all depends on where you are and who your with. In all my years I've never been asked to give free lessons or anything like that. Turks respect and fear authority. If you have a look of selfimportance no one will ever ask you a thing.

I was asked to help get a vise for a student and I asked him if he could help get my friend a work permite from Ankara.

When you marry a Turk (or anyone form the Med) you marry the family. Confused I have no problem buying a few things once and a while for my wife's old grandmother. If I was at home I would help out my family if they needed it and they would ( and have ) help me out.


I helped somebody book a holiday in America and got a couple of things sent over, but to be honest I've probably had more Turks go out of their way to help me rather than the other way round.

I once gave English lessons for free time in a rehersal studio.
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