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redwask



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: ESL Cruise Line jobs Reply with quote

yes, they do infact exist! However, they seem to be far and few between. Has anyone experienced or know anyone who's experienced this? I tried look at major cruise liner websites but didnt find anything useful in the help wanted stuff. Any info would be great

*also, i did search the forums already and found one topic regarding this already, but not to much avail, just hoping some new light could be shed on the inquiry.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the urban legends of TESL. You may have also heard of people in Korea/Japan/Hong Kong making $150-$200 an hour with a full schedule.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one is getting work as a model/film star in Japan. Like the $150/hour jobs this may have happened 20 years ago, but probably not.
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redwask



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it must be really rare, i just took an ESL certification course and the instructor said one of her former students was currently teaching for a cruise line, which is how i got interested, oh well, thanks tho
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please do not consider this a flippant response but have you thought of asking the teacher? Or, asking the teacher for the former student's email?

http://www.cruisejobfinder.com/fm/cruises/

www.shipjobs.com/

www.Find-Cruise-Ship-Jobs.com//

http://www.shipjobs.com/

http://www.cruisejobline.com/

www.cruiseshipjob.net/
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saint57



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick browse shows me a bunch of jobs you would expect to find on a boat. If that's your thing ok, but I still don't see much demand for an ESL teacher on a cruise.
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redwask



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malsol wrote:
Please do not consider this a flippant response but have you thought of asking the teacher? Or, asking the teacher for the former student's email?

ahh, good idea!...
lol, yeh, she said she'd keep an eye out, but one, cant just give me the person's email, and two, she doesnt talk to him on email often i guess
however, thanks for the links, a couple of them i havent explored yet
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.peaceboat.org

I don't know anything about it, but I've just had an application from a teacher who spent 6 months, and loved it. It sounds interesting...

Justin
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint57 wrote:
A quick browse shows me a bunch of jobs you would expect to find on a boat. If that's your thing ok, but I still don't see much demand for an ESL teacher on a cruise.

Here's a typical list of available positions rom one of Marisol's links. There are no English instructor positions. Typical "Lecturer" positions on cruise ships are for content lecturers: geography, history, arts, etc.

Maybe Marisol didn't check out his links before posting them? Any idiot can google (just ask InTime/CMM). Intelligent googling takes -- well, intelligence, plus a simple examination of the search results. Wink

* Deck Department * Casino Staff
* Cruise Directors * Cruise Staff
* Disc Jockeys * Entertainers
* Expedition Leaders * Gentleman Host
* Hosts and Hostesses * Lecturers
* Naturalists * Production Managers
* Shore Excursion Managers * Shore Excursion Staff
* Water Sports Instructors * Lifeguards
* Youth Counselors * Beauticians
* Cosmetologist * Massage Therapists
* Fitness Directors * Fitness Instructors
* Medical Staff * Personal Trainers
* Air/Sea Reservation Agents * Bar Stewards
* Bartenders * Bedroom Stewards
* Gift Shop Positions * Hospitality or Hotel Managers
* Photographers * Deckhands
* Junior Assistant Pursers * Pursers
* IT Staff * Dance Instructors
* Administration Assistants * Booking Agents
* Customer Service Representatives * Sales and Marketing Positions

And here are some job categories from another link:

Deck Department
Hotel Administration
Cruise Staff
Food Department
Bar Department
Entertainers
Engineering Dept
Dining Room
Housekeeping
Medical Center
Casino
Salon/Spa
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught for a while at the International Hotel and Tourism Management Training School in Bangkok and we frequently placed our students with the cruise lines. They came to the school to recruit out students.

The job interviews were ALWAYS in English - and if the students didn't have good English skills. they weren't hired.

One thing that makes me doubt that there are many EFL jobs on cruise ships is that the jobs students applied for were typically 12 hour day, 7 day week type jobs - when would they attend EFL classes and study?

Cruise ship jobs are typically work/sleep type jobs - where you may even share your bed with the person who works the opposite shift. Great for third world folks who will jump at a chance to save US$10,000 in a year - and unheard of opportunity for them - but not so great for those of us who might not want to work a nine-month shift of 12 hours days - without a single day off.

These jobs are not "Love Boat" jobs.
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry you are such a p u t z!
The links are to companies that hire for cruise ships. Ever consider sending them a letter asking about ESL/EFL jobs that may be in addition to listed jobs?

Of course not, you are not that creative. Too bad.


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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The peace boat teacher that I met was teaching the passengers, not the staff- from what I've heard, cruise ship staff don't have enough time to eat, let alone study, on many lines. But there are probably a few lines out there that offer EFL to aid their passengers in their international experiences.

I was once offered a job as cruise ship entertainer, which is probably better than many gigs on board, but the weird schedules, shared accomodation, and limiting work conditions put me off it.

Best,
Justin
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malsol wrote:
The links are to companies that hire for sruise [sic] ships.

Yes, they indeed were. But why didn't you say why you posted them? You left us no clue other than the fact that you knew that ESL/EFL positions were available at each of those sites. Not true.
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again Henry dear brother you insert yourself into a thread where you have nothing to contribute, have no real interest in helping anyone, just to create conflict.


Why do you have to post every time I post? Are you now an internet stalker?
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to keep the dishonest honest and the immoral moral.
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