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Job adverts misleading and misrepresentative

 
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Susie



Joined: 02 Jul 2003
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Location: PRC

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:09 pm    Post subject: Job adverts misleading and misrepresentative Reply with quote

I have discovered that three job adverts on a popular website for TEFLers are misleading and misrepresentative.

Could anybody please comment on what to do or say when potential employers' contracts and particulars of jobs are different than those advertised on line.

For example, accommodation is in the job advert but not in the contract.

For example, a job advert offers 20 teaching hours for rmb8000 but the contract demands 40 hours, etc.
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MyTurnNow



Joined: 19 Mar 2003
Posts: 860
Location: Outer Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can carefully articulate the exact variances from the advertisements, and especially if you can document the violations (e-mails, contract copies, etc.) then you might try contacting the managers of the TEFL website. You might at least be able to limit these schools' abilities to advertise. These website guys hear a lot of whining so be very ready when you contact them!

MT
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dractalks



Joined: 14 May 2003
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Location: Boston/Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:25 am    Post subject: MT Speak? Reply with quote

If you can carefully articulate the exact variances from the advertisements

Quote:
If you can
Implies that she 'can or can not'

Quote:
articulate
means...to speak.



Quote:
the exact variances
We have no &^&%% IDEA!

What does this mean... I really want to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bluey



Joined: 24 Feb 2003
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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: MT Speak? Reply with quote

dractalks wrote:
If you can carefully articulate the exact variances from the advertisements

Quote:
If you can
Implies that she 'can or can not'


Anyone else having trouble with this (the original quote in context), please pitch in! You could form a club with dractalks, give your condition a name and fund research into treatment and global awareness!

dractalks wrote:

Quote:
articulate
means...to speak.


Like, an articulated lorry (US=Truck)?

dractalks wrote:

Quote:
the exact variances
We have no &^&%% IDEA!


Is that the royal we? Delusions of grandeur get the odd mention on this site... Personally, I found that the original message you quoted was at least a little clearer than your reply. Care to let me know where I'm missing the complexity / ambuiguity / point?
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MyTurnNow



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, agreed. On looking back it's not a terribly well-crafted sentence but its meaning is not that obscured. Or at least it shouldn't be.

MT
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Steiner



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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Location: Hunan China

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry, your meaning is perfectly clear to anyone who's attended primary school.
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MyTurnNow



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, so I'm reaching the relevant. Cool. Thanks. Cool
MT
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Susie



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOur advice so far is to expect adverts to be misleading and to misrepresent. Also to tell TEFL.com. Both points are noted.

One advertiser is a specialist in agency work, advertising and marketing. He placed his advertisement offering visa, accommodation, etc. he doesn't even have students for me to teach. He is just trying to find them now that he thinks he has a teacher, wants me to work illegally and live on the street! (no accommodation, no employment documents offered).

When asked for accommodation and documents he said, "I would love to give them to you, and hope to when you are working full-time"!!!
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wOZfromOZ



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 272
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: DRAGTALKS! Reply with quote

Dragtalks ...talking to himself again in drag

I think the message is clear,
the majority view is that
Ni zhen shi yi pi ma de pigu! ....ie
you're really a horse's ass!

Drag or was that the self professed Sino Cyber thug, COBRA
It's that time again
get your horse's ass out a here!

wOZfromOZ
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a slightly less serious but nonetheless annoying scale, most adverts tell liitle white lies. The one you can always count on to be a load of b.llsh.t is the distance out of town figure. I recently attended an interview in at a school "20 minutes from the centre of Beijing." One taxi ride, two trains and a further long taxi ride and I was there - exactly two hours and forty minutes from the time I left home. That kind of lie just makes me want to blow the interview right out of the water. But in case you haven't noticed, the truth and the Chinese don't exactly go together very well.
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