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On ITTO, Guadalajara, and a dog
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: If not Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: unanswered Qs Reply with quote

Fox, please tell us why you trained in ESL and are teaching history and lit? Is the Lit. in middle or high school? What type of school are you with? It's obviously private, but I assume it must be an international school to offer Literature. How much are you making? Have you gotten your FM3? Do you have credentials to teach history and Lit?

All relevant Qs. Thanks, cwc
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: unanswered Qs Reply with quote

cwc wrote:
Fox, please tell us why you trained in ESL and are teaching history and lit? Is the Lit. in middle or high school? What type of school are you with? It's obviously private, but I assume it must be an international school to offer Literature. How much are you making? Have you gotten your FM3? Do you have credentials to teach history and Lit?

All relevant Qs. Thanks, cwc


Well, I can't answer for Fox, but I teach Literature and History at the Jr. High school level, even though I don't have degrees nor training in either. I also teach Use of English, and preparation for the Cambridge exams. My teaching certification from the U.S. is for elementary, and bilingual and ESL...yet I teach the jr. high school English subjects in my school. Seems like private schools are rather flexible as to what subjects a native English speaking teacher can teach. Some schools I interviewed would gladly have me teach anything in the humanities.
One school I interviewed at, that does follow the SEP program told me I wouldn't be able to teach any of the Science courses, not even in English, because I did not have a science background, and SEP is pretty strict in that. But anything in the social sciences or humanities was okay, even by SEP regulations.
As for credentials, having a degree or teaching certificate are definitely plusses, but not absolutely required from I have found out. Again, from what I have discovered, private schools have a lot of flexibility as to whom they hire and what they have those people teaching, especially with regards to anything that has to do with the English language.
I'd be interested to know how much he is making however, cuz I seem to have reached a brick wall in my own job search. (Oh, and cwc, one of the reasons I did not pursue your school--other than it was far away from where I wanted to be--is because it pays lower than I wanted to make. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: FM3 & Qualifications Reply with quote

Hi All....

I know when I was in Mexico teaching last year...I was able to get my FM3....no problems. Also, at that time I was not a qualified teacher (I was teaching gr. 6). As well, a friend of mine there was an accountant by trade and wanted a change and got a job teaching English literature. Obviously, he was not qualified to do that...other than the fact that he spoke English! This was all at a private school. I guess maybe it all depends on location and connections....but it worked out for all.

...dixie
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dixie, what sort of credential did Immigration want to see for the FM3 for teaching?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: My FM3 process..... Reply with quote

Hey Samantha....

Now you have me thinking! I'm trying to remember....I think it was my passport. I had photos taken, took them to the office and filled out a form regarding personal info (name, nationality, the basics) and that was that. The intersting thing though was that I started teaching in Jan (I replaced the pervious teacher that was there) yet didn't do any of this until May. I recieved a letter in the mail (in Spanish) in May, which I took into the school b/c I didn't understand it all but basically it said my time in the country was up and I needed to leave or do something to stay. I'm still not sure to this day, but I think the school was trying NOT to pay for my FM3 as I was only going to be there for the 6 months and I think they were trying to get away without 'legalizing' me! But I got it and it was all qutie easy...at least on my part.

Hope that answers what you were asking! If not....ask again and I will again try!

...dixie
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: My FM3 process..... Reply with quote

dixie wrote:
I recieved a letter in the mail (in Spanish) in May, which I took into the school b/c I didn't understand it all but basically it said my time in the country was up and I needed to leave or do something to stay.

Ummm... this 'FM3' you speak of. Was it a white card or a small green passport-sized booklet?

I rather suspect you had the former, an FMT or "tourist card". It sounds like the school helped you get a six month extension on your FMT, and that you were teaching illegally for the six months!

If you did have a green FM3 visa, I can't see immigration giving you one without having to show some proof of your level of education, such as a notarized university degree.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean you were able to get an FM3 without a college degree or TESOL certificate of any sort? Wow. I just have to ask which Immigration office that was. I thought our Immigration office was lax (well they are, but not that much!)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Ha...I do have the 'little green booklet'.....and more! Reply with quote

Hey All...

No..I have an FM3...the little green booklet! As for education...I do have a uni honours degree (in English Lang. & Lit) but I had not gone through teacher's college at that time (I just graduated last week! whoo-hoo!). I believe the school took care of the beginning process as I gave them copies of my diploma and transcripts, etc. but I was only personally involved in filling out the final forms regarding personal info and putting my signature in the 'little green booklet'! DOes that make a little more sense?

...dixie
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dixie, yes, it suddenly makes sense. You left out the part about your hard-earned degree. It sounds like someone started the process for you in the beginning and then left it up in the air at the Immigration office.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Ha...sorry about that! Reply with quote

Ha!! Sorry about that..I was originally thinking in terms of my own personal involvement! But yes, the school got the ball rolling and I was just there at the end to finalize and verify!

...dixie
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Foxandme,
I am thinking about heading to Guadalajara, and would really really love to bring my cat. Are cats as well recieved as dogs (better recieved, worse?) Have you found a vet for your dog or are there relatively few?
Also, I do not have much in the way of training to teach, is it necessary to find a job. I know that it is a good idea, but I just want to go to Mexico for about 8 months, and can't see being able to recover the cost of TEFL training in that amount of time.
Thanks for your help,
Emily
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Re: On ITTO, Guadalajara, and a dog Reply with quote

FoxandMe wrote:
I will be teaching jr high History and Literature in August. The school has taken me on for the summer as an academic assistant.

If you want to ask me any questions, feel free.


What happened?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: cats Reply with quote

Cats arent any problem at all. I came with my 2 cats and never even had to say anything to the landlord about them (kinda hard for cats to mess up tile and cement Smile ) I have since been found by a third cat. I honestly believe that Chuy asked around the neighborhood as to who could be suckered in by an 800-gram furball and all the neighborhood cats said "la gringa!"

Turns out they were right. Im dreading finding the next tiny stray because I simply cannot take another cat.
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