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jonks



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mongrelcat wrote:
Are you paying a fee for all this help?


What do you mean by this mongrelcat? Embarassed
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jonks



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This, just in case American people are angry at my 'cat food' comment.

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Pedigree brand dog food recalled in Asia after illnesses reported

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The makers of Pedigree brand dog food and Whiskas brand cat food have recalled products manufactured in Thailand and sold in Japan, South Korea and Southeast Asia after reports of increased renal illness among dogs in Taiwan, according to a company statement Friday.

Effem Foods (Thailand) Co., a unit of food and confectionary giant Mars. Inc., said in a statement that it has recalled the dry dog and cat food ''because of concerns over raw material quality at a manufacturing plant in Thailand.''

It said it had found mold in raw materials Wednesday at a pet food manufacturing plant in the Pakchong district of Nakhon Rachasima Province, 160 kilometers northeast of Bangkok, where operations have since been suspended.

But the company said its investigation has not confirmed a direct link between the mold finding and an increase in reported cases of renal illness among dogs in Taiwan, Thailand and the Philippines.

Though many of the recalled products contain chicken, the manufacturer's Web site said there is ''absolutely no correlation between the highly infectious viral bird flu in Thailand and the renal illness in the Taiwan dogs.''

''The fresh poultry materials used in the dry Pedigree product were carefully selected from healthy birds and cooked at temperatures over 100 C in the manufacture of the dry dog food. This cooking temperature is well in excess of that needed to totally destroy the virus,'' it said.

Taiwan veterinarians have reportedly said hundreds of dogs fed Pedigree Dry dog food have developed kidney failure and died in recent months.

But the company said that numerous scientific tests conducted by the Taiwan government and by its own experts have found no problems, and noted that since its dry dog food is the most popular brand in Taiwan and has major market shares in other affected countries, ''we would expect a majority of dogs with any condition to have been fed our product.''

Renal disease, it said, is a common condition diagnosed in up to 100,000 dogs every year in Taiwan. Besides food and drink, it said, possible causes include infectious diseases, old age, natural or man-made toxins, and overall genetic susceptibility.

In Japan, the recall is limited to one variety of Pedigree Dry dog food, nine varieties of Kalkan Brekkies dry cat food and two varieties of Kitekat dry cat food.


There have been similar complaints in Taiwan over cat food made by Pedigree.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonks wrote:
mongrelcat wrote:
Are you paying a fee for all this help?


What do you mean by this mongrelcat? Embarassed


Jonks,

I think this was directed towards me, and how I was explaining the help I am recieving from the recruitment rep. at the school I'll be working for

Cheers Wink
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SanChong



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ki said:
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Having a recruiter as your employer is very very bad. They will deduct fees for whatever they want and you can't do anything about it. They are also given money by the school, 10 - 20 000 more than you get EVERY SINGLE MONTH. You are better off paying a once off fee and avoiding all the hassle. But teachers, wrongly, think that a "free service" actually saves them money.


Ki, you are absolutely right. However, the key here is that many recruiters really are FREE. The schools pay them a one time fee and there is absolutely NOTHING taken away from the teacher. It's really important to make this distinction, because there are two totally different kinds of recruiters. The first kind, like IACC, DOES charge the teacher money. There are many like this. I agree, they are best avoided.

The 2nd kind of recruiter, like Reach To Teach and Dewey, work very much like a Human resource Company back home. Recruiters back home can open up doors for you that would remain closed otherwise. Many companies back home RELY on such firms to do professional and detailed screening of applicants for them. These Companies pay for this service. Taiwan is starting to be very much the same. What school would you rather work at? One that planned ahead and hired a teacher, or one that was scrambling at the last second to hire one? Many schools that use recruiters fall into that first category.

Like anything else, it's important to do your research and make your wishes known. Make sure you use a good recruiter with a proven honest track record.
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Ki



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but this distinction is difficult to make for new and pre arrivals when dodgy recruiters claim that their service is free because you don't "pay any money upfront". This is a false claim and one that teachers need to be aware of.

Although it would be nice to work for a school which gets their act together early in the hiring process I don't think that this is necessarily an accurate indication of a good school. School can also advertise to secure a teacher early.

A good example is that of our friend who posted recently trying to get out of his contract early. He wants to keep his current school as a back up while he looks for work elsewhere. If he does find another job it will leave his current school without a teacher and little time to find a new one. This doesn't necessarily make it a bad school. Just one which got itself caught out.

Many schools also resort to using recruiters as a last minute solution.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ki wrote:
Yes, but this distinction is difficult to make for new and pre arrivals when dodgy recruiters claim that their service is free because you don't "pay any money upfront". This is a false claim and one that teachers need to be aware of.


Personally I think that there is enough information out there on the internet now that anyone coming to Taiwan and who does not spend time to research schools and recruiters is probably their own worst enemy.

Your advice not to sign with a recruiter is good advice and in itself pretty much knocks out the possibility of working for one of those recruitment companies that farms you out to schools illegally and withholds money from your wages each month.

Don't work for any recruiter who collects your wages on your behalf as this is unneccessary and gives them the opportunity to skim your wages.

Finally do research on any company and see if there is any feedback out there about these companies. Again there is a lot of information out there now about most of the big players.
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jonks



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigWally wrote:
I think this was directed towards me, and how I was explaining the help I am recieving from the recruitment rep. at the school I'll be working for


Got it. Cheers mate.
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jonks



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SanChong wrote:
there are two totally different kinds of recruiters. The first kind, like IACC, DOES charge the teacher money. There are many like this. I agree, they are best avoided.
The 2nd kind of recruiter, like Reach To Teach and Dewey, work very much like a Human resource Company back home.


Recruiters meet the needs of their clients (the schools that pay the fees) first and foremost.
Cheap labour.

Do some research, come to Taiwan, find a job. You will get a much better salary that way than if you did by using a recruiter. What prospective teachers need to take into consideration is the best time to come to Taiwan.
Anyone like to offer an opinion on that?
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had i known about the tax ramifications earlier in the year, I would have passed on spending the summer in Canada...toughed out the monsoon season in Taiwan, and headed over there before June of this year....

too bad, now I'm gonna get stuck paying the 20% tax rate at from Sept-Dec, and then i get the "discounted" tax rate from Jan-Aug next year...

just another one of those things that i always just took for granted here in Canada....never thought that there would be a 183 day minimum in order to pay a different tax rate...oh well, if this is the worst thing that I run into i'll be a happy camper Very Happy
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