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Best (and worst) branches to work for -- GEOS and AEON
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Willy_In_Japan



Joined: 20 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was at GEOS, we were told that the Managers didn't do the selling. The TEACHERS were the people who got the student to renew, the manager 'just took the money'.

At least that was their theory.
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luckyloser700



Joined: 24 Mar 2006
Posts: 308
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy_In_Japan wrote:
When I was at GEOS, we were told that the Managers didn't do the selling. The TEACHERS were the people who got the student to renew, the manager 'just took the money'.

At least that was their theory.


It's true that teachers have a big influence on who signs up and who renews their contracts, but the managers really do sell out like no others to get new contracts and renewals. They do whatever it takes; it's sometimes scary what they'll say or do.
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shikushiku-boy



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Melbourne

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"physically tiring"
"long hours"
"slavedriver or anal managers whose job it is to be a-holes"
"unpleasantness"
"stress"
"aggravation"
"personality conflicts"
"office politics"
"culture shock"
"homesickness"
"loneliness"
"cultural alienation"
"workmates and trainers from hell"
"isolated parts of the country"
"team teaching with a teacher who does not and can not speak English"
"boredom"
"being underutilised"
"no respect from teachers or students"

"I'm just giving some friendly advice from someone who is successful in this country."

GUFFAW!
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movinaround



Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Posts: 202

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shikushiku-boy wrote:


"physically tiring" = YES
"long hours" = NOT REALLY. NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY, 8 TO 9 HOUR WORKDAY. THIS IS USUALLY SAID BY BA GRADUATES WITH NO IDEA OF HOW THE REAL WORLD WORKS AND HAD DADDY PAY FOR THEIR EDUCATION (though I am not talking about you shikushiku-boy Smile )
"slavedriver or anal managers whose job it is to be a-holes" = TYPICALLY
"unpleasantness" = DEPENDING ON BRANCH
"stress" = NO. LESS STRESS THAN REAL TEACHING. YOU ALMOST NEVER REALLY BRING HOME WORK WITH YOU
"aggravation" = LIKE ANYWHERE
"personality conflicts" = LIKE ANYWHERE
"office politics" = LIKE ANYWHERE
"culture shock" = THIS IS QUITE OBVIOUS
"homesickness" = DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, THOUGH EVERYONE FEELS IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER PEOPLE THAT MUCH
"loneliness" = IT IS PATHETICALLY EASY TO MAKE FRIENDS IN MOST CASES, AND POSSIBLE IN ALMOST ALL
"cultural alienation" = AGAIN YES (BUT OBVIOUS)
"workmates and trainers from hell" = I LOVED MY WORKMATES. ARE STILL IN TOUCH WITH SOME FROM 4 YEARS AGO!!!
"isolated parts of the country" = REALLY DEPENDS. FOR JET, THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE OF THIS. EIKAIWA, PRETTY SAFE FROM THIS
"team teaching with a teacher who does not and can not speak English" = PROBABLY
"boredom" = PROBABLY, SOME LOOK AT THIS FROM THE HALF FULL POINT OF VIEW, PLENTY OF TIME TO STUDY SOMETHING
"being underutilised" = MOST LIKELY
"no respect from teachers or students" = DEPENDING, THOUGH I HAVE NOTICED IT'S THE TEACHERS FAULT ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME

"I'm just giving some friendly advice from someone who is successful in this country."
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Ai



Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 154
Location: Chile

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So if I were looking to be placed in a Tokyo suburb, with no more than an hour train commute to Tokyo, could you suggest a nice area


I live in Northern Chiba. I can reach some parts of Tokyo in an hour. The area doesn't seem to have too much going for it besides it's convenience in relation to Tokyo.

One of my friends lives in Yokohama. Given a choice of these two burbs (the only ones I'm familiar with so far), I'd choose Yokohama.
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Mark



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 500
Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for where to live in Tokyo, it really depends on where you work. The Yamanote line is an oval-shaped train line in the centre of the city. From outside, it's easy to get to the Yamanote line, but it's usually not so easy to get to another place that's outside the Yamanote. So, if you work outside the Yamanote, you should probably live on the line that you work on.

The other major consideration is rent. A nice Tokyo apartment in a central location will bleed you dry. You can easily spend 100,000 yen for a shoebox and still not be living in the prime locations.

The other thing to remember is that the Tokyo area is organized around train stations. It doesn't really matter whether the station is in Shibuya or Suginami or Yokohama or whatever. It's the quality of the area around your station mixed with how easily you can get to work and to the fun areas of Tokyo, which will serve as meeting points for you and your friends. It took me a long time to adjust to this way of thinking as I was so used to thinking in terms of neighbourhoods.
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