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kdynamic



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: planning way ahead... Reply with quote

Someone give me a reality check. Is this realistic? I am thinking about a gap period I need to plan for a little more than a year from now (I am one of those people that plans way ahead).

The situation (resources):
1kyu Japanese level
Cheap apartment in a fairly large city (not tokyo or osaka, but big)
A reasonable cushion of savings to tide me over
All the free time in the world (no plan yet)
Proper working visa, BA, and gaijin card
No desire to find long-term employment during this period

The goal:
Make about Y100,000/month for three months to stay afloat between other jobs while still having free time

I could teach English, do freelance translation, waitress, whatever.

This kind of seems too easy to be true. Is it harder that I think to pick up enough sort of random work to keep my head above water for a short period? I have never been anything but a student or a full time employee in Japan before, so I am not sure what to expect.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can making 100K per month keep you afloat? That cheap rent must be AWFULLY cheap.

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Is it harder that I think to pick up enough sort of random work to keep my head above water for a short period?
I'm sure you'll get answers on both sides of the fence. Work in a small town, and you are likely to have a dearth of work available unless you've already established a lot of contacts.

And, what does that "proper visa" permit you to do? There are limits, y'know.
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kdynamic



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
How can making 100K per month keep you afloat? That cheap rent must be AWFULLY cheap.

Yeah, really cheap. Like 20,000 or 30,000 at most.
And I am open to using some savings too (I have enough), and I plan to live a pretty low-key life. No traveling, and cooking at home almost every day, etc. I just want to stem the flow of cash out of my savings as much as I can without having to work that much. That's how I came to the number of 100k/mo. But like I said I have never done this before so I wanted some feedback. I would really rather not commit to full on employment, since I'd really like to spend those months working on some personal projects and enjoying being in japan in the little ways.

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Work in a small town, and you are likely to have a dearth of work available unless you've already established a lot of contacts.

Well that's why I said I was going to be in a big city.

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And, what does that "proper visa" permit you to do? There are limits, y'know.

I know. My visa category is as follows:
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Activities to engage in service that requires knowledge pertinent to jurisprudence, economics, sociology, or other human science fields. Activities to engage in service that requires specific ways of thought or sensitivity based on experience with foreign culture, such as interpreting, translation, copywriting, fashion design, interior design, sales, overseas business, information processing, international finance, design, or public relations and advertising


So, thats a lot of differnt kinds of employment open to me legitamently. But if I pick up some private English students who pay me in cash and am not dealing with any kind of school or anything, will it really be such a problem that I don't have an instructor visa? I mean, a few students here or there under the table. Is that really such a risky thing?
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shuize



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100,000/month? Quite possible, I'd say. Especially if you've got solid Japanese and are willing to take on various kinds of temporary odd jobs.

It's not my neck, but I think there is almost nothing to worry about with a few private students.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is that a Humanities Specialist visa?

Taking on private lessons is not risky legally, but it might be financially. Depends on the students. In my experience, they can drop you suddenly, leaving you with no income for that time slot, and who knows how long it might take to recover that loss.

Charge 5000 yen per student per hour once a week (20,000 per month in advance), and you'll need 5 lessons. Charge 4000 instead, and you'll need 6. I'm sure you can do the math. Just beware of losing them. Personally, unless I already had a steady income from reliable customers, I wouldn't try living off private students, even if what I needed was a low income.

That's dirt cheap rent. Your utilities must run almost the same cost.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be better off spending that time in Thailand or somewhere, if you have the savings. Depending on when it is, it is also quite possible to find work there; diving or hospitality. Sure would be more fun!
Would that work for you?
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kdynamic



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
So is that a Humanities Specialist visa?

The full name is 'specialist in human and international services' and I think it's the broadest catagory of work visa.

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I wouldn't try living off private students, even if what I needed was a low income.

Yeah, I see what you mean about it being risky and unstable. I guess I will kind of just see how it goes with private students, while also looking for translating and other types of short term work.

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That's dirt cheap rent. Your utilities must run almost the same cost.

The figure was with utilities accounted for. Heheh I meant it when I said it was cheap.

Sweetsee wrote:
You might be better off spending that time in Thailand or somewhere, if you have the savings. Depending on when it is, it is also quite possible to find work there; diving or hospitality. Sure would be more fun!
Would that work for you?

Well, the whole idea for this gap period is to enjoy Japan for a last few months before leaving for other parts of Asia. I just feel like I want to enjoy Japan now while I have this visa and I haven't forgotten Japanese yet, because I don't know when I will be back. I have spent time in Thailand in the past, and will probably do so again, but my idea here is to leave Japan with a good taste in my mouth, and try to rediscover what it is that drew me here (something I seem to be steadily forgetting) by having fun and taking the time to enjoy myself, Japanese-style.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gotcha Kid, sounds good. Sure would be nice to do something besides English though, depending on what time of year it will be I might be able to think of something. When are you thinking, what three months?
You mentioned having been in Thailand, mind my asking whereabouts, for how long and what you got up to.
We spent 6 months there leading up to the millineum, a big part of that was spent working running a bar at Raillay, know it?
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tokyo story



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making 100,000 a month on privates isn't hard.

Finding students yourself takes time (it's easier if you go through a company, that way you can replace problem students or people who drop out), but getting students to come to regular lessons isn't difficult.

All you have to do is go the extra mile -- throw the textbook away, prepare things for them, ask them why they want to learn English, find out what they need from you... If you're a people person, privates are fun and relaxing... Be flexible, try to suit their schedule as much as possible, don't charge a cancellation fee if they cancel in advance and make your fee reasonable... Despite what some teachers think, Japanese people are not made of money...

The staff at Detour might make 1000 yen an hour if they're lucky (probably 800-900 yen) & they're working harder than I am for the hour I'm there... If it's some kind of specialised English or you have a lot of experience maybe you can charge more, but you won't get as many students and you ought to ask yourself, "Would I pay 4-5000 yen an hour for Nihongo lessons?" No, I'd go to the City Hall and pay 500 yen.

The drawbacks are that your lessons will be scheduled all over the show. You might have big gaps in your day. Find students close to home or try teaching groups of students (like movie class.)

I heard about one guy who teaches groups of students using a film and the screenplay, and supposedly he makes a lot of money because each student pays a full lesson fee. It's a really good idea if you can find the students.
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kdynamic



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just found out that

a) I will probably be in Tokyo after all for that time
b) rent will likely be free, including utilities
c) my visa does allow me to teach English among lots of other things

yay. keeps getting better. Anway, thanks for the advice everyone. I'm looking forward to having fun in Tokyo Cool


(too bad now I have to wait a whole year before all this kicks in... Confused )
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shuize



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdynamic wrote:
Just found out that

a) I will probably be in Tokyo after all for that time
b) rent will likely be free, including utilities
c) my visa does allow me to teach English among lots of other things

yay. keeps getting better. Anway, thanks for the advice everyone. I'm looking forward to having fun in Tokyo Cool


(too bad now I have to wait a whole year before all this kicks in... Confused )

As you're one to plan way ahead, why not pick up one or two privates now and put the money in the bank. Twenty or thrity thousand per month for a year and you're pretty well covered for the three months (300,000) you need.
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earthmonkey



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you need any advice.

Good job!!
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