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Heny, i'm glad it gives you light amusement, and apparently Thrifty enjoys it, too

but maybe it's not so fun/amusing for others. it gives me a knot in my stomach reading all the harsh things people say to each other on these forums Sad

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Justin Trullinger · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject:

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Aren't there was little left to learn or I was sick of it valid reasons?

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:

Erm, in my opinion, yes.

But neither implies that the job wasn't good.

Your previous post, however, implied that if a job was good, then the person would still be in it, with which I disagree. I have, in my life, left several perfectly good jobs. My reasons were "valid" to me, and frankly, nobody else gets to vote. The premise that people might have had, and left, good jobs is pretty obvious to me.

I enjoy the job I now hold, but have little doubt that I will eventually move on from it.

best regards,

Justin

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

What are you doing in TEFL?

Can't you get out?

Will. · Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 783 Location: London Uk

Isn't that just the epitome of TEFL.

Sorry Justin I know I am taking your quote out of context.

I enjoy the job I now hold, but have little doubt that I will eventually move on from it

There is just no real reason to stay in any one job in the TEFL world as there is always better elsewhere. The whole industry is in a state of flux as we move, the teachers that is, from country to country and job to job and never stay in one job for too long. What can the employer offer us to make us decide to stay in one place? The students neve rbuild a relationship with a teahcer as they are always being replaced and in some of the schools the teacher is deifferent ecvery lesson....'nuff said Industry...too true very industrialised.
Do you remember that teacher you had in primary school/grade school who had been teacheing there for 30 or 40 odd years and retired Can anyone offer me a similar example from TEFL?

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

The only sad examples I can think of in TEFL are the bitter, miserly barely human old Gulf ex-pat teachers who will die there with all their money. Sadly even they will eventually have to leave unless they die from obesity first because of the need to get locals into employment.

Will. · Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 783 Location: London Uk

Yeah, what happens to old EFL teachers?

Do they get recycled?

Can you imagine it. The new pub in Coronation Street.

"The Expat's Return"

"The Tefler's return"

It is the only way many of them could afford to maintain their drinkstyles
All across the Home coiunties new pubs spring up in honour of previous employers and benefactors

The Berlitz Arms,

The Duke of Dubai

The Rose and Palm tree

The Saudi Sands

The Slug and Camel

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Because of the explosion in TEFL that occurred during the eighties and nineties, we have yet to see the hordes of pensionless, homeless TEFLers trying to retire.

Some will die TEFLing from drink and their poor lifestyle choices. Others will carry on working on jobs like Qatar Petroleum that take people in their seventies for apalling pay.

The Gulf ex-pat teachers will not spend money on drink but will utilise their homebrewing expertise and drink their homebrew in front of the telly.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

That QP contract really was the last chance saloon for many a TEFLer-still some younger ones made it to your place Stephen-sorry ex-place.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

The QP job was/is a useful stop gap for people between jobs. I have lost count of the number of people I know or know of who spent some months there.. Nearly all of them appeared to be younger than me though.

The two most common hang-outs for the TEFLer in his sixties appear to be China and Oman. And there are people in the Gulf who got into jobs in the fifties and manage to get extensions when they are over sixty.

A lot of times the TEFLer has settled down in one of the countries he has taught in, and is married with a family that is soon to grow up. In that respect he is no different from the other denizens of the country he lives in.

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

So, where are you off to next then? Qatar, China or Oman?

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

Some years before the sixties yet. Oman seems a pleasant place for a year or two. Problem is the money is not great for saving.

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Anywhere that takes TEFLers in their sixties is not going to pay well.

Ugh that is why they take TEFLers in their sixties. Particularly as TEFLers age faster and Gulf TEFLers age even faster.