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william wallace



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: No ...Hmm? Reply with quote

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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Wallace, could you please go back and give some background to your post? In particular, please supply an antecedent to the pronoun they in your third sentence. Who are "they"? Where are "they"? Who is/was teaching "them"?

We have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, especially given the title you've given your thread.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yesterday was my fourth time to come across this amazing phenomenon.I say this because I know little about Business course taught in English.I could be cynical and assume they've gotten nothing from the instruction, but obviously my thinking is flawed, as they have gotten their Canadian High School diplomas, MBAs, and other niche business degrees.

I tried to accomodate an unheard of(by me) Scottish language gauge of 25 points per Oral, Written, Listening, Reading skills and adhere it to what I know well, the IELTS test. Of the 43 I tested, about 20 were of a band 3, 2 were of a Band 5, and the remainder a Band 4.This,by far, has been the greatest density of Band 3's I've ever tested or mock tested.They could not follow any of the instructions necessary to complete the IELTS spoken tasks, as well, much of the key vocabulary was unreconizable to them.

So, you suave business folk, please tell me your secret, so that I can possibly pick up a few degrees myself. Could I possibly get 2-3 Ph.D's in a year or two, if I apply this secred formula ?
Cheers,
P.S. I have taken two courses in economics years ago, and a diploma course in Hotel Management years ago prior to going to university.


Henry, please allow me to translate for William. I can read drunken Canadian.

I teach a business English course. My students are idiots, but they have a bunch of fancy degrees from Canadian universities. How did they get these degrees if they can't speak English? Perhaps Canada has lowered their educational standards. Maybe it's time for me to go back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint, why do you expect KL to be "Margaritaville"? Will you be meeting Margarita there? Cool
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Dear Saint... Reply with quote

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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a matter of Canadian, and without question other countries', universities handing out degrees to Chinese students, some of whom never leave China let alone leave their hometown where they are studying at university.

The factory where I work has a deal with a relatively new Canadian university. Undergraduates in the Economics Department, upon graduating, receive two degrees: one from their Chinese university, and one from the Canadian university.

Over the course of four years, the students receive a grand total of one semester of studies from a visiting Canadian professor employed by the degree awarding institute. Whether or not the students understand anything he/she says is a matter I know nothing about. However, I do know that this Canadian university already recognizes the awesome caliber of these Chinese students, and is eager to award/sell them those long sought after Canadian-minted certificates of Higher Education to these independent and fierce intellects.

It was quite amusing, actually. On graduation day, I saw several students holding their Canadian degrees up against the bright afternoon sky:

- 是假的吗?

- 老师说如果能看到枫叶的话,证明是真的。。

- 曹他妈!没有。。。
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saint57



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please PM me the name of the university.
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no_exit



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of students paying to have their lectures, assignments and homework translated into Chinese. They'd do all the coursework in their own language essentially, and just have it all translated. If it isn't a language course, does this count as cheating?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many British universities in China don't care about the quality of the students they are enrolling.

Why? Because they require these students to spend money on a "top up" year in the UK. The students must pass in this top year, after the tuition, housing, books, and other fees are paid. If they fail, they can pay again and keep trying until they finally pass.

Think "education as business" and you'll see what a great plan it is. Was this Tony Blair's own idea?
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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a lady from Harvard who was giving three weekend lectures to
bankers in Taiyuan Shanxi province . After three weekend lectures they were to be awarded MBA's.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After three weekend lectures they were to be awarded MBA's.


Perhaps the MBA is from Taiyuan Shanxi Normal University of International Turd Production. It certainly wouldn�t be from Harvard.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met the lady at Beijing waiting for a delayed flight . She was angry about the delay because her schedule was tight . She was giving the lectures to managers of some obscure bank that I had never heard of . I asked her if she spoke Chinese . She said no .
MBAs are the easiest degree to get in my mind . Pay your money and you get the paper . Do you know of anyone with a business degree that was obtained on a scholarship ?
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