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dangerousapple
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 292
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Suggestion for a new sticky |
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Can the mods create an "Aristotle" sticky, where posts from anyone with a slippery grasp of reality automatically get sent? Seriously! It would be a great place to get some daily giggles, and would clean up the rest of the forum so people could find useful information faster. |
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SanChong
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 335
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Ha, that is a GREAT idea! That would really be enjoyable...
Plus, this way we don't have to waste our time rebutting his ridiculous posts and can spend time on what the forum is for... discussions and answering questions.
Thanks for the laughs, Apple! |
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Pop Fly

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 429
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Oddly enough, that's the first thing that came to my mind when I read the title of this thread. |
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BigWally

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 765 Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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not to mention that "new posters" like myself (i hate that term "newbies") dont necessarily want to have our posts/threads hijacked by someone's socio-political issues...
I'm well educated, I'm aware that Taiwan (although technically is Democratic) has the "common misconception" of a communist gov't, mainly due to China being in such close proximity, and the many policital issues involving the two.....this does not scare me, nor do the stories of racism, or bureaucratic issues, i expect these things to happen as I'll be the foreign man, in a foreign land...i just take it all in stride, because if you're afraid to do anything, then how do you learn anything about the world, other cultures, and most importantly yourself?!
the worst thing of all, is that these constant negative posts bring down the overall quality of the board, because all the "new posters" like myself see these things are i'm sure it puts some people off, and thats certainly not the point of the board....nor is the constant in-fighting that is caused by certain posts, especially when that time wasted on arguing when it could be better used answering relatively mundane questions from "new posters" like me!!!
that being said, I'm not a censor, and censorship shouldnt be tolerated as this board is not communist....although, my preference is called "personal censorship", everytime i see that pic of Che i just keep on moving to the next post...works well for me!
cheers! 
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Pop Fly

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 429
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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BigWally wrote: |
not to mention that "new posters" like myself (i hate that term "newbies") dont necessarily want to have our posts/threads hijacked by someone's socio-political issues...
I'm well educated, I'm aware that Taiwan is under a communist gov't, |
Communist?
I got here first. I get to tell him.
Erm, Big Wally? Please tell us you went to an American University to get that well educated position you took back up there. Canadians take it hard enough on these boards. We don't need another black mark.] like mixing us up with them pinkos across the way. Please. It was Yale wasn't it? Your Alma Mater? Please!!! Say it is so.
I kid.
See?
Taiwan is a democratic country. It has been for 10 years. Prior to that, it was a dictatorship. Prior to that, it was a Japanese conquest. Here in Taiwan we can say things like Chen Shui Bien sucks. Or even Ma Ying Jo sucks. Or even Chiang Kai Shek (previously mentioned Dick-Tater) sucks. Or even Mao Tze Dung sucks. You might however, get slapped by an irate local for saying Sun Yat Sen sucks.
Now, you may consider yourself an educated man.
Naruwan big fella.  |
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BigWally

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 765 Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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i should clarify....my humble apologies for sounding smug....
although i do realize that Taiwan is technically a democratic country, they still have the rather intimidating rule of China (and their communist powers) hanging over their heads...the fact that they are democratic is one of the reasons why i have no fear of moving there...
i was referring more to the constant indications from Aristotle that it is communist, corrupt, etc, etc....and more just to say, thank you i have been educated on this topic, we dont constantly need reminders to the facts that can be found anywhere in any other of his posts....
allow me an edit on my original post and all will be good!!
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SanChong
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 335
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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although i do realize that Taiwan is technically a democratic country, they still have the rather intimidating rule of China (and their communist powers) hanging over their heads...the fact that they are democratic is one of the reasons why i have no fear of moving there...
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The politics are one of the very interesting aspects of living in Taiwan (at least, for people like me who enjoy paying attention to these sort of things).
I find (and I include myself in this) that no one really understands how absolutely democratic Taiwan is until they live here. In many ways, Taiwan is even MORE liberal than the US and other Western countries. The situation with China confuses things in people's minds before they arrive here. However, China has no effect on Taiwanese life on a daily basis. Taiwan has it's own government, money and is independent in every single way from China. The only tangible way Taiwan is part of China is that China SAYS SO.
This may change in the future, but Taiwan is really no more a part of China than it is a part of the US, Canada or any other country.
By the way, Aristotle IS a Communist. That's why he will constantly criticize Taiwan as having an "occupying government". He supports China and it's Communist ideals. If you notice, he will never criticize China.... only Taiwan.
Just another bizarre facet of this person who wastes so much our time on this forum. |
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*_*
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion for a new sticky |
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dangerousapple wrote: |
Can the mods create an "Aristotle" sticky, where posts from anyone with a slippery grasp of reality automatically get sent? Seriously! It would be a great place to get some daily giggles, and would clean up the rest of the forum so people could find useful information faster. |
hey what's wrong with alternative viewpoints?  |
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dangerousapple
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 292
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong...I think Aristotle is the funniest thing going on in this forum! I love reading his rants, and the reactions he gets are even funnier! He's not doing any real damage, because anyone who actually believes him probably shouldn't come to Taiwan anyway. They'd end up buying a bridge or something. |
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DirtGuy
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 529
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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I actually think his/her/its rants more often than not contain some truth. Perhaps it is the way he/she/it comes across that keeps people from the reality contained in the posts.
OK. I have my Kevlar on so feel free to sling arrows or anything else my way.
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SanChong
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 335
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Of course you are right, Dirtguy. Aristotle isn't all wrong. I'd even agree that there are some truths in what he says.
The problem is his partisanship. His posts are attacking, spiteful and mean spirited towards Taiwan. He offers NO EVIDENCE whatsoever for his mostly ridiculous and offensive statements. He has no agenda for conversation or discussion. His only agenda is ripping apart Taiwan and criticizing it's people, culture, government and anything else that comes aross his path.
Yes, his posts have SOME truth. Mostly, though, I see Aristotle as indicative of many of the problems in this world. He is blind hatred without reason or logic. He doesn't separate the good from the bad in Taiwan. He twists all news items and subjects towards his spiteful agenda. Taiwan is just a place to dump all his negativity and hatred.
No attention should be given to that kind of perspective.
Plus, he just wastes all our time! |
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valsedeamour

Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't give Aristotle a bad rap per-say, as SanChong pointed out; there are flakes of truth in his words (then again, fish flakes are meant for food too but I wouldn't go around making a meal out of it). But the point is this: you arrived to the city, you lived there, you made the choice. We aren't here to change the government, if anything, think about it --- we are exploiting it for its prospects. All I say, is you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you.
As a lurker (and now a poster), I just find he puts a negative spin on the country and the politics as a whole. It is one thing to have an opinion on it, but it should be backed up with experience.... this would help out the new people on the board. Canada's political climate is a free for all with Harper, but people are still clamouring to immigrate; There is something there to hold onto. I think it is fair to give someone the full reality of what it means to come to the country, so they are not Alice in Wonderland... only to be shocked when it is not the postcard that was shown. That is respected, and needed. Off the wall remarks from someone who is milking the system anyways.. well that's just redundant.
If you hate it so much -- move to the US, become a teacher there and have fun being able to save nothing, and hope you don't get hit by a car... cause I'd take Chinese medicine before that HMO All in all --- your quips are amusing and there is some truth; but stop filling in people who don't know anything about the culture with that kind of negativity. State the facts and they can make up their minds
I dunno.. I just dont think you should bite the hand that feeds you. |
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