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Skrybe



Joined: 19 Sep 2004
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Location: Dubai

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Getting Cheap Airfares Reply with quote

Hello All,

Back in 04-05 I was in Japan on a WHV, and had a blast doing the English thing. I went home, finished up Uni, and have decided to head back to the rising sun (Poverty and loans are a great motivator). I'll be bringing my wife and child with me for the first bit as I get settled in and start working again, but then she will head off to see her parents in the middle east. The thing is, I don't know who I can call for airfares. We want to book a flight out ot Tokyo, but for the life of me I can't remember the names of any of the agencies I used to read about when I was last there.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Cheap Airfares Reply with quote

Skrybe wrote:
Hello All,

Back in 04-05 I was in Japan on a WHV, and had a blast doing the English thing. I went home, finished up Uni, and have decided to head back to the rising sun (Poverty and loans are a great motivator). I'll be bringing my wife and child with me for the first bit as I get settled in and start working again, but then she will head off to see her parents in the middle east. The thing is, I don't know who I can call for airfares. We want to book a flight out ot Tokyo, but for the life of me I can't remember the names of any of the agencies I used to read about when I was last there.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!


HIS or no1 Travel is probably one of the cheapest but they have been in the news recently for gouging higher fares for non-Japanese travellers. May pay to get a japanese person to book the ticket for you.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Cheap Airfares Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
May pay to get a japanese person to book the ticket for you.


Paul, what makes you think that would help if this is indeed still going on? You still must provide your full name (as it appears on your passport) because that's what get printed on the tickets (which are non-transferable) and you must show your passport in order to receive your boarding pass. So whether you give your own name or a nihonjin gives your name on your behalf, it would amount to the same thing...
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Willy_In_Japan



Joined: 20 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if that is still the case.......

I booked a trip to Thailand with No1 and it was 80,000 yen or so.....they sent an email a couple of weeks saying that the fuel surcharge was going up about 2000 yen.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just spent over 400,000 yen for 3 tickets (1 of them is for a child) to Canada, so someone's making some profit. Crazy prices!
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Cheap Airfares Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:
PAULH wrote:
May pay to get a japanese person to book the ticket for you.


Paul, what makes you think that would help if this is indeed still going on? You still must provide your full name (as it appears on your passport) because that's what get printed on the tickets (which are non-transferable) and you must show your passport in order to receive your boarding pass. So whether you give your own name or a nihonjin gives your name on your behalf, it would amount to the same thing...


I dont have the link to hand right now but someone had the HIS on tape saying they had different prices for non-Japanese. I can only speculate as to what happens when a japanese books a ticket for the foriegner. My only guess is that a foreigner is not going to question what he is being charged and assumes the prices are the same for everyone, season charges notwithstanding.

Is it possible that HIS will charge a cheaper rate if a Japanese is ordering the ticket (for a foreigner) or charge the higher rate. they will then have some explaining to do.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once tried to buy a cheap (package deal) ticket to Korea through HIS. They refused to sell it to me because I was a foreigner. I told them I was not interested in the tour, I just wanted the airfare and hotel package. They refused saying we had to speak Japanese (we all know that only Japanese people can speak Japanese Wink ) I then said we speak enough Japanese to get by and then they changed tactics yet again and said the Japanese tour agent based in Seoul was "too nervous" to have a foreigner on the package deal. I think it was all a bunch of BS, the "great package deal" was only for nihon-jin.
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Hoser



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only difference I can think of in price is that the Japanese don't have to pay a security fee (I guess Japanese don't commit crimes). It was about a 5,000 yen difference.
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Dipso



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is a most interesting thread! HIS owns Number One Travel btw, I believe. I have used HIS on several occasions and always found them to be reliable, although I of course have no way of knowing if I paid the gaijin surcharge.

On a connected point, British Airways is being investigated in the UK and the US over allegations of price fixing the fuel surcharge.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5104946.stm
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David W



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used No1\HIS a number of times and while I'm generally fairly happy with them they can be a little sneaky at times. Last year I flew Singapore Airlines from Kansai to Perth. I was quoted a price that included an 8000 yen fuel levy. OK I thought fuel prices are booming, fair enough. A month or so before I was due to leave No1 sends me an e-mail saying that Singapore Airlines have raised there fuel levy and the surcharge was now 18,000 yen, quite a hefty increase. This sounded a bit off to me so I checked the SA site and sure enough they had upped their surcharge- but only from US$45 to $50 per sector. Now my trip was 4 sectors so by my calculations 18,000 yen was still lower than the actual levy. I however suspect that No1 gave me a good price to get me to book knowing full well that once I'm booked I'll lose money by cancelling so I'm more than likely to grin and bear it when they up the price.

This year, I'll be carefully checking www.ab-road.net for the best prices and sending out a lot of e-mails to get the best deal.


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Skrybe



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

I'll check out HIS and No.1 Travel. If I have to I will get a Japanese friend to help me do the booking. oo bad you can't just buy the tickets through them online, and bypass all the noise.
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Smooth Operator



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HIS are rarely the cheapest and can't really be trusted. I have used IACE a few times and have always been happy - usually cheaper than HIS too.

http://www.iace.co.jp/english/
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Dipso



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experiences with Legend Travel in Osaka were not happy ones. Buyer beware!
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ripslyme



Joined: 29 Jan 2005
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smooth Operator wrote:
HIS are rarely the cheapest and can't really be trusted. I have used IACE a few times and have always been happy - usually cheaper than HIS too.

http://www.iace.co.jp/english/


I've used both HIS and IACE with good results. Occasionally, I'd present the quote from one to the other to try and get the fare down.
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casual



Joined: 13 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Across Travel Bureau have always given me the best service and price.

I have used IACE in the past but they can be a bit unhelpful over the phone so now I stick to ATC.
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