| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan
|
 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:48 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| Vince wrote: |
| I went from an eikaiwa It's unfortunately part-time, so I have to scrape up classes elsewhere during the ridiculously long vacations. |
If you have a BA and are working at a vocational college its quite possible to get a PT job with just a BA- I hadnt started on my Masters yet when i get my first uni job. That said- those kinds of jobs are disappearing fast, it depends on the level of the school (vocational schools I hear dont really have the smartest or most motivated English learners, and often have to take for credit whether they want to be there or not), how desperate they are to find someone, and part time somewhere is probably all you will get with no more than a BA- a warm body really is all they are looking for. Once your foot is in the door it is easier to pick up extra college classes here and there (long summer vacations but no need for meetings nor publications) but it usually means a lot of running around and piecing work together at 3 or 4 different places.
Of course everyone has different needs, but I wouldnt want to be supporting a family on even two or three part time college jobs, when they can be taken away or reduced at any time, or your boss finds someone who DOES have the paper qualifications to show off to students and you find yourself out the door the next year. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 5309
Location: Japan
|
| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Maybe so Paul, but his boss will have to pay more for someone with that extra piece of paper. If he is cost conscious and he knows the teacher is doing a good job, than he won't look for another teacher. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Wolf
Joined: 10 May 2003
Posts: 1245
Location: Middle Earth
|
| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| shmooj wrote: |
| Quote: |
NOVA allows this now? |
Did we get our wires crossed? I'm not at NOVA. It's a family run eikaiwa and is tiny in comparison. |
[/quote]
Yes, wires crossed.
At one point you said you work for the eikaiwa.
I just assumed you meant the biggest (NOVA) and jumped in.  I aslo assumed you were one of my old bosses therefore, and hence the cheeky attitude.
Sorry, as it was undeserved! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
shmooj
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
Posts: 1758
Location: Seoul, ROK
|
| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ah I see. I meant the eikaiwa in terms of the right one for me. When I came six years ago, it was a real dump as a school. After three months I was going nuts. I wrote all that needed doing down in a big document and handed it to my boss (who speaks fluent English).
He asked to see me about a week later. I thought I was doomed.
Turns out he wanted to give me a free hand to implement pretty much everything. He didn't have the time but saw that it needed doing. He offered me much better contract benefits as compensation for this. I've been happy pretty much since then though it has been a heck of a steep learning curve for us all.
I never thought of it before but I BET there are loads of small eikaiwas out there that could benefit from someone with a bit more to offer than simply a new graduate to sing patty cake patty cake with the kids. Often, the owners want the business to thrive but don't have what it takes or have other concerns so can't turn it into a serious educational institution.
I wonder if there is a bob or two to be made through offering some kind of educational advisory service to these kinds of schools. Kind of like consultancy work.
Just a thought... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 5309
Location: Japan
|
| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think you're onto something Shmooj.
I ran a school in Canada and the owner hadn't a clue. It was a real challenge trying to keep him happy and the teachers too. It was a battle because he wanted the money and the teachers wanted respect and decent conditions. Then you had to keep the parents happy (kid's school) and deliver quality teaching. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003
Posts: 559
Location: U.S.
|
| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| PAULH wrote: |
| Of course everyone has different needs, but I wouldnt want to be supporting a family on even two or three part time college jobs, when they can be taken away or reduced at any time, or your boss finds someone who DOES have the paper qualifications to show off to students and you find yourself out the door the next year. |
That's what I've been thinking. I'm not into EFL or Japan enough to go for a PhD or even an MA-TESOL, so I think I'll be heading home in the next few months. The golden days of EFL in Japan are long gone, and I'd be better off using that BA to get reestablished in the US than to scrape for part-time work here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
