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[mondrian]

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[englishgibson]

Yes, I understand. I guess we shall refer to this thread with "public schools" and with "private centers".
Our "awarding of students" shall comprise of speaking, listening, writing and reading at least. Even in a public school with a bunch of students at varieties of levels in one class (we don't place them there) and with that best ones getting through easily, I find it difficult to give'em that 100% for just speaking for example. I mean speaking consists of pronunciation, accuracy etc and any of those "great" students lack there somewhere, don't they? The only way I see the students being awarded that 100% overall is if our standards are set LOW.

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[Roger]

This bloody Chinese English teaching system has no uniform, standardised and rational assessment methods or even OBJECTIVES and GOALS to attain; it's a muddling through and each teacher sets their very personal criteria. How then can we expect to "go with the flow" and sell illusions and lies?

IT is similar to car-driving schools: you buy your ticket, you do not have to pass exams under rigorous controlled circumstances. Even foreigners unable to understand Chinese symbols pass. What does that say about the schooling and examinations here? Those who do not pass those pseudo-exams can still get a driving licence; some purchase fake number plates and never get detected.

I think if exam results and certs are of paramount importance to the Chinese they got their priorities in the wrong order. Do something about that and forget about exams! This is an exam-driven nation that cares too little about abilities, skills and talents and too much about paper values such as degrees and the right names - see the ongoing student protests at Zhengzhou university over its refusal to grant them degrees for exams they passed at Shengda college. The whole nation is obsessed with appearances, and that's why I do not wish to be under moral obligation to "consider" a student's individual plight for failing. He or she has got the wrong ideas.

Then again, does it matter whether they pass my exams or not? I would be happy if I was absolved from the onerous duty to examine them. For Mao's sake - relieve us from this useless window-dressing act and examine your students by yourselves oh yeah Chinese overlords! Collect a charge from each of them for every point up in the scale, and you will not disappoint any people because anyone then can buy what they are aspiring to. Education is so cheap in China - you can't degrade it any further with your graspiness, ye university deans and education ministers and stupid parents!

I have so far never awarded my students any points for attending my classes; if they learn on their own they don't need to sit through lessons; what matters is whether they can demonstrate newly-acquired skills that matter in their future.

[vikdk]

[englishgibson]

Right on Vikdk